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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	1vier1@web.de, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] spinlock: Document memory barrier rules
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:40:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160831154049.GY10121@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4859166f-ff39-e998-638b-6bf6912422a3@colorfullife.com>

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 06:59:07AM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:

> The barrier must ensure that taking the spinlock (as observed by another cpu
> with spin_unlock_wait()) and a following read are ordered.
> 
> start condition: sma->complex_mode = false;
> 
> CPU 1:
>     spin_lock(&sem->lock); /* sem_nsems instances */
>     smp_mb__after_spin_lock();
>     if (!smp_load_acquire(&sma->complex_mode)) {
>         /* fast path successful! */
>         return sops->sem_num;
>     }
>      /* slow path, not relevant */
> 
> CPU 2: (holding sma->sem_perm.lock)
> 
>         smp_store_mb(sma->complex_mode, true);
> 
>         for (i = 0; i < sma->sem_nsems; i++) {
>                 spin_unlock_wait(&sma->sem_base[i].lock);
>         }
> 
> It must not happen that both CPUs proceed:
> Either CPU1 proceeds, then CPU2 must spin in spin_unlock_wait()
> or CPU2 proceeds, then CPU1 must enter the slow path.
> 
> What about this?
> /*
>  * spin_lock() provides ACQUIRE semantics regarding reading the lock.
>  * There are no guarantees that the store of the lock is visible before
>  * any read or write operation within the protected area is performed.
>  * If the store of the lock must happen first, this function is required.
>  */
> #define spin_lock_store_acquire()

So I think the fundamental problem is with our atomic_*_acquire()
primitives, where we've specified that the ACQUIRE only pertains to the
LOAD of the RmW.

The spinlock implementations suffer this problem mostly because of
that (not 100% accurate but close enough).

One solution would be to simply use smp_mb__after_atomic(). The
'problem' with that is __atomic_op_acquire() defaults to using that, so
the archs that use __atomic_op_acquire() will get a double smp_mb()
(arm64 and powerpc do not use __atomic_op_acquire()).

I'm not sure we want to introduce a new primitive for this specific to
spinlocks.

Will, any opinions?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-31 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-28 11:56 [PATCH 0/4] Clarify/standardize memory barriers for lock/unlock Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] spinlock: Document memory barrier rules Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56   ` [PATCH 2/4] barrier.h: Move smp_mb__after_unlock_lock to barrier.h Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56     ` [PATCH 3/4] net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core: update memory barriers Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 11:56       ` [PATCH 4/4] qspinlock for x86: smp_mb__after_spin_lock() is free Manfred Spraul
2016-08-29 10:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 10:51       ` [PATCH 3/4] net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core: update memory barriers Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-28 13:43     ` [PATCH 2/4] barrier.h: Move smp_mb__after_unlock_lock to barrier.h Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-28 16:31       ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 18:00       ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-28 14:41     ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-28 17:43       ` [PATCH 2/4 v3] spinlock.h: Move smp_mb__after_unlock_lock to spinlock.h Manfred Spraul
2016-08-29 10:48   ` [PATCH 1/4] spinlock: Document memory barrier rules Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 12:54     ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-29 13:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31  4:59         ` Manfred Spraul
2016-08-31 15:40           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-08-31 16:40             ` Will Deacon
2016-08-31 18:32               ` Manfred Spraul
2016-09-01  8:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 11:04                   ` Manfred Spraul
2016-09-01 11:19                     ` Will Deacon
2016-09-01 11:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 14:05                       ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-29 10:53 ` [PATCH 0/4] Clarify/standardize memory barriers for lock/unlock Peter Zijlstra

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