mail delivery subsystem failure

mail delivery subsystem failure

[Elizabeth Ferdman]

I'm trying to group-reply to a message Julia sent about my patch. It
fails to send and I get this error for each recipient from Mail Delivery
Subsystem: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:"

It's making it impossible to group-reply from mutt because google thinks
it's spam... I tried doing it a second time but the same thing happened.
I believe I've group replied before and it worked fine.

Technical details of permanent failure:
Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for
more information.

Re: [Outreachy kernel] mail delivery subsystem failure

[Julia Lawall]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:

> I'm trying to group-reply to a message Julia sent about my patch. It
> fails to send and I get this error for each recipient from Mail Delivery
> Subsystem: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:"
>
> It's making it impossible to group-reply from mutt because google thinks
> it's spam... I tried doing it a second time but the same thing happened.
> I believe I've group replied before and it worked fine.
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for
> more information.

I'm the moderator of the group, so normally I should get informed about
any messages that are considered to be spam.  I haven't gotten anything
recently, and I didn't see anything in the web interface.

On the other hand, I see that you did spell my name incorrectly:

juia.lawall@lip6.fr,

Maybe lip6.fr is reacting in some way that google groups doesn't like?

In any case, you can try just dropping me from the CC list.  I will get
the message via the group anyway.

julia


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Re: [Outreachy kernel] mail delivery subsystem failure

[Elizabeth Ferdman]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 08:25:12PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to group-reply to a message Julia sent about my patch. It
> > fails to send and I get this error for each recipient from Mail Delivery
> > Subsystem: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:"
> >
> > It's making it impossible to group-reply from mutt because google thinks
> > it's spam... I tried doing it a second time but the same thing happened.
> > I believe I've group replied before and it worked fine.
> >
> > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for
> > more information.
> 
> I'm the moderator of the group, so normally I should get informed about
> any messages that are considered to be spam.  I haven't gotten anything
> recently, and I didn't see anything in the web interface.
> 
> On the other hand, I see that you did spell my name incorrectly:
> 
> juia.lawall@lip6.fr,
> 
The ellipsis is how google groups abbreviates all email addresses in the
mailing list; I wrote out your full email address when I sent it. 
> Maybe lip6.fr is reacting in some way that google groups doesn't like?
> 
Possibly: here's what i'm getting:
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     juia.lawall@lip6.fr

     Technical details of permanent failure:
     Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
     server for the recipient domain lip6.fr by isis.lip6.fr.
     [2001:660:3302:283c::2].

     The error that the other server returned was:
     550 5.1.1 <juia.lawall@lip6.fr>... User unknown

> In any case, you can try just dropping me from the CC list.  I will get
> the message via the group anyway.
> 
Good idea i will try that.
Liz
> julia
> 
> 
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Re: [Outreachy kernel] mail delivery subsystem failure

[Julia Lawall]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 08:25:12PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:
> >
> > > I'm trying to group-reply to a message Julia sent about my patch. It
> > > fails to send and I get this error for each recipient from Mail Delivery
> > > Subsystem: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:"
> > >
> > > It's making it impossible to group-reply from mutt because google thinks
> > > it's spam... I tried doing it a second time but the same thing happened.
> > > I believe I've group replied before and it worked fine.
> > >
> > > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > > Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for
> > > more information.
> >
> > I'm the moderator of the group, so normally I should get informed about
> > any messages that are considered to be spam.  I haven't gotten anything
> > recently, and I didn't see anything in the web interface.
> >
> > On the other hand, I see that you did spell my name incorrectly:
> >
> > juia.lawall@lip6.fr,
> >
> The ellipsis is how google groups abbreviates all email addresses in the
> mailing list; I wrote out your full email address when I sent it.
> > Maybe lip6.fr is reacting in some way that google groups doesn't like?
> >
> Possibly: here's what i'm getting:
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
>      juia.lawall@lip6.fr

This is the problem.  The first name in my email address is julia, not
juia.  You left out the l.  I'm surprised that it would cause no one else
to receive the mail, though.

julia

>
>      Technical details of permanent failure:
>      Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>      server for the recipient domain lip6.fr by isis.lip6.fr.
>      [2001:660:3302:283c::2].
>
>      The error that the other server returned was:
>      550 5.1.1 <juia.lawall@lip6.fr>... User unknown
>
> > In any case, you can try just dropping me from the CC list.  I will get
> > the message via the group anyway.
> >
> Good idea i will try that.
> Liz
> > julia
> >
> >
> > >
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Re: [Outreachy kernel] mail delivery subsystem failure

[Elizabeth Ferdman]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 08:59:37PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 08:25:12PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm trying to group-reply to a message Julia sent about my patch. It
> > > > fails to send and I get this error for each recipient from Mail Delivery
> > > > Subsystem: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:"
> > > >
> > > > It's making it impossible to group-reply from mutt because google thinks
> > > > it's spam... I tried doing it a second time but the same thing happened.
> > > > I believe I've group replied before and it worked fine.
> > > >
> > > > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > > > Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for
> > > > more information.
> > >
> > > I'm the moderator of the group, so normally I should get informed about
> > > any messages that are considered to be spam.  I haven't gotten anything
> > > recently, and I didn't see anything in the web interface.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I see that you did spell my name incorrectly:
> > >
> > > juia.lawall@lip6.fr,
> > >
> > The ellipsis is how google groups abbreviates all email addresses in the
> > mailing list; I wrote out your full email address when I sent it.
> > > Maybe lip6.fr is reacting in some way that google groups doesn't like?
> > >
> > Possibly: here's what i'm getting:
> > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> >
> >      juia.lawall@lip6.fr
> 
> This is the problem.  The first name in my email address is julia, not
> juia.  You left out the l.  I'm surprised that it would cause no one else
> to receive the mail, though.
> 
> julia
> 

Hey Julia, 
I did spell your name wrong in that particular thread but it wasn't
spelled wrong when i group replied (separate thread). I actually just
hit 'g' in mutt to group reply. 
Even when i only reply to outreachy-kernel@googlegroups.com, 
it refuses to go through. I tried sending it lots of times.
Mutt is not showing any errors.

To save some time I'm just going to paste what I've been trying to
respond to this whole time here:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Replace the unique arithmetic macro expression with a built-in
> I don't understand "unique arithmetic macro expression".
>
What I meant to say was that the author wrote his own rounding
expression instead of using a built in function that achieved the same
thing. I was trying to be concise but I guess I should have just said
that directly. Do you have a better idea? I can submit a v3
with a better description.
> > function from linux/kernel.h DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(x, divisor).
>
> Some blank lines are deleted at the end of the patch.  This seems like
> a
> separate change.
>
Oh, I did delete two blank lines at the very end of the file, out of
habit and not realizing that would distract from the change.
I could just go back in and add those two blank lines to clear that up.

Liz
-------------------------------------------------------------------


> >
> >      Technical details of permanent failure:
> >      Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
> >      server for the recipient domain lip6.fr by isis.lip6.fr.
> >      [2001:660:3302:283c::2].
> >
> >      The error that the other server returned was:
> >      550 5.1.1 <juia.lawall@lip6.fr>... User unknown
> >
> > > In any case, you can try just dropping me from the CC list.  I will get
> > > the message via the group anyway.
> > >
> > Good idea i will try that.
> > Liz
> > > julia
> > >
> > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> >
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Re: [Outreachy kernel] mail delivery subsystem failure

[Julia Lawall]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 08:59:37PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 08:25:12PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Elizabeth Ferdman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to group-reply to a message Julia sent about my patch. It
> > > > > fails to send and I get this error for each recipient from Mail Delivery
> > > > > Subsystem: "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:"
> > > > >
> > > > > It's making it impossible to group-reply from mutt because google thinks
> > > > > it's spam... I tried doing it a second time but the same thing happened.
> > > > > I believe I've group replied before and it worked fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > > > > Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for
> > > > > more information.
> > > >
> > > > I'm the moderator of the group, so normally I should get informed about
> > > > any messages that are considered to be spam.  I haven't gotten anything
> > > > recently, and I didn't see anything in the web interface.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, I see that you did spell my name incorrectly:
> > > >
> > > > juia.lawall@lip6.fr,
> > > >
> > > The ellipsis is how google groups abbreviates all email addresses in the
> > > mailing list; I wrote out your full email address when I sent it.
> > > > Maybe lip6.fr is reacting in some way that google groups doesn't like?
> > > >
> > > Possibly: here's what i'm getting:
> > > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> > >
> > >      juia.lawall@lip6.fr
> >
> > This is the problem.  The first name in my email address is julia, not
> > juia.  You left out the l.  I'm surprised that it would cause no one else
> > to receive the mail, though.
> >
> > julia
> >
>
> Hey Julia,
> I did spell your name wrong in that particular thread but it wasn't
> spelled wrong when i group replied (separate thread). I actually just
> hit 'g' in mutt to group reply.
> Even when i only reply to outreachy-kernel@googlegroups.com,
> it refuses to go through. I tried sending it lots of times.
> Mutt is not showing any errors.
>
> To save some time I'm just going to paste what I've been trying to
> respond to this whole time here:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Replace the unique arithmetic macro expression with a built-in
> > I don't understand "unique arithmetic macro expression".
> >
> What I meant to say was that the author wrote his own rounding
> expression instead of using a built in function that achieved the same
> thing. I was trying to be concise but I guess I should have just said
> that directly. Do you have a better idea? I can submit a v3

It was too concise.  Maybe "drop a local macro definition and replace its
uses with a standard macro from XXX.h" (find out what XXX is).

> with a better description.
> > > function from linux/kernel.h DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(x, divisor).
> >
> > Some blank lines are deleted at the end of the patch.  This seems like
> > a
> > separate change.
> >
> Oh, I did delete two blank lines at the very end of the file, out of
> habit and not realizing that would distract from the change.
> I could just go back in and add those two blank lines to clear that up.

You need to just start over.  Or in any case, you should not submit a
patch that modifies things that were done in a previous patch that was not
accepted.

julia


>
> Liz
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > >
> > >      Technical details of permanent failure:
> > >      Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
> > >      server for the recipient domain lip6.fr by isis.lip6.fr.
> > >      [2001:660:3302:283c::2].
> > >
> > >      The error that the other server returned was:
> > >      550 5.1.1 <juia.lawall@lip6.fr>... User unknown
> > >
> > > > In any case, you can try just dropping me from the CC list.  I will get
> > > > the message via the group anyway.
> > > >
> > > Good idea i will try that.
> > > Liz
> > > > julia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
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