From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
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Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
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Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, security@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/8] exec: introduce cred_guard_light
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:02:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161003160219.GB4758@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k2dtp7jj.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
On 09/30, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > And I think that cred_guard_mutex is already over-used in fs/proc. Say,
> > I think lock_trace() must die, I simply can't understand why it is useful.
> >
> > Suppose we modify, say, proc_pid_stack() to do
> >
> > save_stack_trace_tsk(task, &trace);
> > if (!ptrace_may_access(task, ...))
> > goto return -EPERM;
> >
> > for (i = 0; i < trace.nr_entries; i++)
> > seq_printf(...);
> >
> > return 0;
> >
> > is there any problem if it shows some trace before setuid exec does
> > install_exec_creds() ?
>
> You should make certain that the mm doesn't change in that picture,
> perhaps like /proc/<pid>/mem does.
Why? We do not care I think, /proc/pid/stack has nothing to do with
task->mm.
OK, we can use __ptrace_may_access() and call save_stack_trace_tsk()
under task_lock(), but I don't understand why should we worry.
And again, do you see any security problem with the code above? Yes,
it is "racy" but I think it is fine to occasionally succeed when it
races with credentials change. I fail to understand why the current
code abuses cred_guard_mutex to close the race with setuid exec.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-03 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-23 20:40 [PATCH v2 0/8] Various fixes related to ptrace_may_access() Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] exec: introduce cred_guard_light Jann Horn
2016-09-30 15:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-30 18:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-03 16:02 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2016-10-30 21:12 ` Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] exec: turn self_exec_id into self_privunit Jann Horn
2016-09-23 21:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-23 21:33 ` Jann Horn
2016-09-30 13:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-30 13:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-30 18:30 ` Kees Cook
2016-09-30 18:59 ` Jann Horn
2016-09-30 19:05 ` Kees Cook
2016-10-03 16:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] proc: use open()-time creds for ptrace checks Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] futex: don't leak robust_list pointer Jann Horn
2016-09-30 14:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-10-30 17:16 ` Jann Horn
2016-11-02 21:39 ` Jann Horn
2016-11-02 22:47 ` Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] proc: lock properly in ptrace_may_access callers Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] ptrace: warn on ptrace_may_access without proper locking Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] fs/proc: fix attr access check Jann Horn
2016-09-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] Documentation: add security/ptrace_checks.txt Jann Horn
2016-10-02 3:16 ` Krister Johansen
2016-10-30 19:09 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-31 4:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-31 13:39 ` Jann Horn
2016-11-03 20:43 ` Krister Johansen
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