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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Android Kernel Team
	<kernel-team-z5hGa2qSFaRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Rom Lemarchand <romlem-z5hGa2qSFaRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Colin Cross <ccross-z5hGa2qSFaRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Dmitry Shmidt <dimitrysh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christian Poetzsch
	<christian.potzsch-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Amit Pundir <amit.pundir-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Another pass at Android style loosening of cgroup attach permissions
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:18:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161004201840.GA27018@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161004193838.GH4205-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Tejun Heo (tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org):
> Hello, John.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 11:01:12AM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> > So to make sure I understand your suggestion, you're suggesting the
> > cgroupfs files like:
> > cpuctrl/tasks,
> > cpuctrl/bg_non_interactive/tasks,
> > cpuset/foreground/tasks,
> > cpuset/background/tasks,
> > etc
> > use ACL permissions to specify the specific uids that can write to
> > them? I guess this would be conceptually similar to just setting the
> > owner to the system task, no?  Though I'm not sure that would be
> 
> Yeah, finer grained but essentially just giving write perms.
> 
> > sufficient since it would still fail the
> > cgroup_procs_write_permission() checks. Or are you suggesting we add
> > extra logic to make the file owner uid as sufficient to change other
> > tasks?
> 
> Hah, now I'm not sure how this is supposed to work inside a userns as
> it's checking against GLOBAL_ROOT_UID.  cc'ing Serge.  Serge, can you
> please have a look?

Hi, thanks for the cc,

how about changing the GLOBAL_ROOT_UID check with a targeted
capability check, like

	if (!ns_capable(tcred->user_ns, CAP_SYS_NICE) &&
            !uid_eq(cred->euid, tcred->uid) &&
            !uid_eq(cred->euid, tcred->suid))
		ret = -EACCES;

where the actual capability to use may require some thought.


> But back on subject, yeah, I think a capability based approach is
> better here too.  No idea how difficult it is to add a new CAP but I
> think it's worth trying.  Can you please spin up a patch?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> tejun

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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Rom Lemarchand <romlem@android.com>,
	Colin Cross <ccross@android.com>,
	Dmitry Shmidt <dimitrysh@google.com>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
	Christian Poetzsch <christian.potzsch@imgtec.com>,
	Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Another pass at Android style loosening of cgroup attach permissions
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:18:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161004201840.GA27018@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161004193838.GH4205@htj.duckdns.org>

Quoting Tejun Heo (tj@kernel.org):
> Hello, John.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 11:01:12AM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> > So to make sure I understand your suggestion, you're suggesting the
> > cgroupfs files like:
> > cpuctrl/tasks,
> > cpuctrl/bg_non_interactive/tasks,
> > cpuset/foreground/tasks,
> > cpuset/background/tasks,
> > etc
> > use ACL permissions to specify the specific uids that can write to
> > them? I guess this would be conceptually similar to just setting the
> > owner to the system task, no?  Though I'm not sure that would be
> 
> Yeah, finer grained but essentially just giving write perms.
> 
> > sufficient since it would still fail the
> > cgroup_procs_write_permission() checks. Or are you suggesting we add
> > extra logic to make the file owner uid as sufficient to change other
> > tasks?
> 
> Hah, now I'm not sure how this is supposed to work inside a userns as
> it's checking against GLOBAL_ROOT_UID.  cc'ing Serge.  Serge, can you
> please have a look?

Hi, thanks for the cc,

how about changing the GLOBAL_ROOT_UID check with a targeted
capability check, like

	if (!ns_capable(tcred->user_ns, CAP_SYS_NICE) &&
            !uid_eq(cred->euid, tcred->uid) &&
            !uid_eq(cred->euid, tcred->suid))
		ret = -EACCES;

where the actual capability to use may require some thought.


> But back on subject, yeah, I think a capability based approach is
> better here too.  No idea how difficult it is to add a new CAP but I
> think it's worth trying.  Can you please spin up a patch?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-04 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-04  4:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Another pass at Android style loosening of cgroup attach permissions John Stultz
2016-10-04  4:41 ` John Stultz
2016-10-04  4:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroup: Add generic cgroup subsystem permission checks John Stultz
     [not found]   ` <1475556090-6278-2-git-send-email-john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 19:09     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-05 19:09       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-05 19:16       ` John Stultz
2016-10-05 19:16         ` John Stultz
2016-10-05 19:23         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-04  4:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] cgroup: Add a allow_attach policy for Android John Stultz
     [not found]   ` <1475556090-6278-3-git-send-email-john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-05 19:10     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-05 19:10       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-05 19:18       ` John Stultz
2016-10-05 19:18         ` John Stultz
     [not found]         ` <CALAqxLXxFcLWCbSHiFFy0OEDgbnJY+2OLbgLYvypDwoQMuapHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 22:43           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-06 22:43             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-06 22:52             ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found] ` <1475556090-6278-1-git-send-email-john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 16:16   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Another pass at Android style loosening of cgroup attach permissions Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 16:16     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20161004161630.GC4205-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 18:01       ` John Stultz
2016-10-04 18:01         ` John Stultz
     [not found]         ` <CALAqxLUPMxpngbZCSFW9wS+LbZJbfSUxTDEXX2x-FUmuN4H+QQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 19:38           ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 19:38             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20161004193838.GH4205-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 19:46               ` John Stultz
2016-10-04 19:46                 ` John Stultz
2016-10-04 19:49                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 20:18               ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2016-10-04 20:18                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-10-04 20:33                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20161004203301.GK4205-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 21:26                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-10-04 21:26                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-10-04 21:29                       ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-04 18:03     ` John Stultz

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