From: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Any artists around?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:32:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161005223220.GA6533@openwall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKfU9Wg1Vd_bz1d--qC02C9xzD_0JJo7seK1M+1tLeszg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:59:31PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:16:07PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> Does anyone have some suggestions or sketches for a logo we could use?
> >
> > How about a bikeshed? It would convey how hardening is not "perfect
> > security", and ack the irony of spending time on discussing a logo.
> > I don't even have a preference as to which color the bikeshed should be.
>
> Haha, yes, exactly. This is the opening image I used in my slides
> covering the uid-0/ring-0 lockdown series at LSS on 2014:
>
> https://outflux.net/bikeshed.jpg
Oh, cool. Meanwhile, my Twitter poll ended in favor of bikeshed:
https://twitter.com/solardiz/status/783033528736940032
"What should (Linux) Kernel Self Protection Project's logo be?
32% A fancy penguin
42% A bikeshed
7% Other (please tweet what)
19% No logo
116 votes"
A bikeshed would also ack the grsecurity project's opinion (as I
understand it) that trying to upstream hardening changes (through the
hoops) is sort of bikeshedding (in comparison with having made such
changes) or that the typical initial response (those hoops) is
bikeshedding, and that some of those changes (not in grsecurity) are a
bikeshed on their own. This shouldn't stop us, but we can troll
ourselves a bit by ack'ing this dissenting opinion in the logo. ;-)
Alexander
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-05 22:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-03 19:16 [kernel-hardening] Any artists around? Kees Cook
2016-10-03 19:21 ` Schaufler, Casey
2016-10-03 19:27 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2016-10-03 20:00 ` Kees Cook
2016-10-05 7:08 ` James Morris
2016-10-06 21:30 ` Kees Cook
2016-10-03 19:34 ` Solar Designer
2016-10-03 19:59 ` Kees Cook
2016-10-05 22:32 ` Solar Designer [this message]
2016-10-06 2:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-10-06 6:50 ` Schaufler, Casey
2016-10-06 21:29 ` Kees Cook
2016-10-06 2:27 ` Jann Horn
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