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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:27:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161012092711.GC1697@mai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161011202850.GK19318@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 04:28:50PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:18:12PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Rich,
> > 
> > On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 05:34:22AM +0000, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > At the hardware level, the J-Core PIT is integrated with the interrupt
> > > controller, but it is represented as its own device and has an
> > > independent programming interface. It provides a 12-bit countdown
> > > timer, which is not presently used, and a periodic timer. The interval
> > > length for the latter is programmable via a 32-bit throttle register
> > > whose units are determined by a bus-period register. The periodic
> > > timer is used to implement both periodic and oneshot clock event
> > > modes; in oneshot mode the interrupt handler simply disables the timer
> > > as soon as it fires.
> > > 
> > > Despite its device tree node representing an interrupt for the PIT,
> > > the actual irq generated is programmable, not hard-wired. The driver
> > > is responsible for programming the PIT to generate the hardware irq
> > > number that the DT assigns to it.
> > > 
> > > On SMP configurations, J-Core provides cpu-local instances of the PIT;
> > > no broadcast timer is needed. This driver supports the creation of the
> > > necessary per-cpu clock_event_device instances.
> > 
> > For my personnal information, why no broadcast timer is needed ?
> 
> Broadcast timer is only needed if you don't have percpu local timers.
> Early on in SMP development I actually tested with an ipi broadcast
> timer and performance was noticably worse.

Obviously. I thought there were another reason related to power management.
 
> > Are the CPUs on always-on power down ?
> 
> For now they are always on and don't even have the sleep instruction
> (i.e. stop cpu clock until interrupt) implemented. Adding sleep will
> be the first power-saving step, and perhaps the only one for now,
> since there doesn't seem to be any indication (according to the ppl
> working on the hardware) that a deeper sleep would provide significant
> additional savings.

Ok.

However, the 'sleep' state is not, in the power management terminology,
the idle state described above. It is called "clock gated" / "Wait for
Interrupt".

The 'sleep' state lose the CPU context.
 
> > > A nanosecond-resolution clocksource is provided using the J-Core "RTC"
> > > registers, which give a 64-bit seconds count and 32-bit nanoseconds
> > > that wrap every second. The driver converts these to a full-range
> > > 32-bit nanoseconds count.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/clocksource/Kconfig     |  10 ++
> > >  drivers/clocksource/Makefile    |   1 +
> > >  drivers/clocksource/jcore-pit.c | 231 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  include/linux/cpuhotplug.h      |   1 +
> > >  4 files changed, 243 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/clocksource/jcore-pit.c
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > > index 5677886..95dd78b 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > > @@ -407,6 +407,16 @@ config SYS_SUPPORTS_SH_TMU
> > >  config SYS_SUPPORTS_EM_STI
> > >          bool
> > >  
> > > +config CLKSRC_JCORE_PIT
> > > +	bool "J-Core PIT timer driver"
> > > +	depends on OF && (SUPERH || COMPILE_TEST)
> > 
> > Actually the idea is to have the SUPERH to select this timer, not create
> > a dependency on SUPERH from here.
> > 
> > We don't want to prompt in the configuration menu the drivers because it
> > would be impossible to anyone to know which timer comes with which
> > hardware, so we let the platform to select the timer it needs.
> 
> I thought we discussed this before. For users building a kernel for
> legacy SH systems, especially in the current state where they're only
> supported with hard-coded board files rather than device tree, it
> makes no sense to build drivers for J-core hardware. It would make
> sense to be on by default for CONFIG_SH_DEVICE_TREE with a compatible
> CPU selection, but at least at this time, not for SUPERH in general.

Probably I am missing the point but why the user would have to unselect
this driver manually ? The user wants a config file nothing more or a very
trivial option. Can you imagine someone can know every single IP block for
each boards of the same arch and be able to disable/enable the right ones ?

> Anyway I'd really like to do this non-invasively as long as we have a
> mix of legacy and new stuff and the legacy stuff is not readily
> testable. Once all of arch/sh is moved over to device tree, could we
> revisit this and make all the drivers follow a common policy (on by
> default if they're associated with boards/SoCs using a matching or
> compatible CPU model, or something like that, but still able to be
> disabled manually, since the user might be trying to get a tiny-ish
> embedded kernel)?

I understand the goal is to have one single configuration and everything
DT based and it sounds great but what is missing here is just a subarch,
not an option to enable/disable the timer.

Give a try with:

make ARCH=arm multi_v7_defconfig menuconfig

--> System Type

That is what you are looking for, a SUPERH config option selecting all the
common options and then a JCORE config option adding the different missing
bits, namely the CLKSRC_JCORE_PIT.

> > The exception is to enable in order to compile on non-native platform to
> > compile-test a bunch of drivers (eg. compile most of the clocksource / 
> > clockevents drivers on a x86 big server).
> > 
> > That's why we should have:
> > 
> > config CLKSRC_JCORE_PIT
> > 	bool "J-Core PIT timer driver" if COMPILE_TEST
> > 
> > So the jcore pit driver option appears only if compile test is enabled
> > otherwise it is a silent option and the user doesn't have to deal with
> > it. Having consistent dependency like the other drivers will help future
> > changes to consolidate the Kconfig.
> 
> I don't think this matches the user expectation for the arch yet. For
> now we have a j2_defconfig that enables the drivers and other kernel
> settings expected to be useful for J-core socs. I want to modernize
> this all but that's a separate project.
> 
> > [ ... ]              
> > 
> > > +#define REG_PITEN		0x00
> > > +#define REG_THROT		0x10
> > > +#define REG_COUNT		0x14
> > > +#define REG_BUSPD		0x18
> > > +#define REG_SECHI		0x20
> > > +#define REG_SECLO		0x24
> > > +#define REG_NSEC		0x28
> > > +
> > > +struct jcore_pit {
> > > +	struct clock_event_device	ced;
> > > +	__iomem void			*base;
> > 
> > It is not '__iomem void *' but 'void __iomem *'. This appears multiple
> > times in this code.
> 
> OK, I'll change that.
> 
> > > +	unsigned long			periodic_delta;
> > > +	unsigned			cpu;
> > 
> > This field is pointless, 'cpu' is only used for a trace in the init
> > function which has already the cpu has parameter.
> 
> OK, will remove. It was needed for the old notify framework but not
> for cpu hotplug framework, I think.
> 
> > > +	u32				enable_val;
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +static __iomem void		*jcore_pit_base;
> > 
> > static void __iomem *jcore_pit_base;
> 
> OK.
> 
> > > +struct jcore_pit __percpu	*jcore_pit_percpu;
> > 
> > static.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > [ ... ]
> > 
> > > +static int __init jcore_pit_init(struct device_node *node)
> > > +{
> > 
> > [ ... ]
> 
> Was there something analogous you wanted me to change here, or just
> leftover quoting?

No, I just cut until the function name in order to give the context for
the next comment and then cut inside the function.

> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * The J-Core PIT is not hard-wired to a particular IRQ, but
> > > +	 * integrated with the interrupt controller such that the IRQ it
> > > +	 * generates is programmable. The programming interface has a
> > > +	 * legacy field which was an interrupt priority for AIC1, but
> > > +	 * which is OR'd onto bits 2-5 of the generated IRQ number when
> > > +	 * used with J-Core AIC2, so set it to match these bits.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	hwirq = irq_get_irq_data(pit_irq)->hwirq;
> > > +	irqprio = (hwirq >> 2) & PIT_PRIO_MASK;
> > > +	enable_val = (1U << PIT_ENABLE_SHIFT)
> > > +		   | (hwirq << PIT_IRQ_SHIFT)
> > > +		   | (irqprio << PIT_PRIO_SHIFT);
> > > +
> > 
> > Why mention AIC1 if there is not test to check if AIC1 || AIC2 ?
> > 
> > Will be the same information available if the irqchip is AIC1 ?
> 
> The bit layout of the PIT enable register is:
> 
> 	.....e..ppppiiiiiiii............
> 
> where the .'s indicate unrelated/unused bits, e is enable, p is
> priority, and i is hard irq number.
> 
> For the PIT included in AIC1 (obsolete but still in use), any hard irq
> (trap number) can be programmed via the 8 iiiiiiii bits, and a
> priority (0-15) is programmable separately in the pppp bits.
> 
> For the PIT included in AIC2 (current), the programming interface is
> equivalent modulo interrupt mapping. This is why a different
> compatible tag was not used. However only traps 64-127 (the ones
> actually intended to be used for interrupts, rather than
> syscalls/exceptions/etc.) can be programmed (the high 2 bits of i are
> ignored) and the priority pppp is <<2'd and or'd onto the irq number.
> This was a poor decision made on the hardware engineering side based
> on a wrong assumption that preserving old priority mapping of outdated
> software was important, whereas priorities weren't/aren't even being
> used.
> 
> When we do the next round of interrupt controller improvements (AIC3)
> the PIT programming interface should remain compatible with the
> driver; likely the priority bits will just be ignored.
> 
> If we do want to change the programming interface beyond this at some
> point (that maay be a good idea, since we have identified several
> things that are less than ideal for Linux, like the sechi/seclo/ns
> clocksource), a new compatible tag will be added instead.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Can you add your answer as a comment for
the bits dance above ?

> > I have to admin I find strange this driver has to invoke irq_get_irq_data(),
> > it is the only one and it sounds even strange it has to be stored per cpu below.
> 
> The timer will not actually generate the irq it's assigned to (or any
> interrupt at all) unless/until it's programmed for the (hard) irq
> number. The need to use irq_get_irq_data comes from the fact that the
> hardware needs the hard irq number, not a virq number, which could in
> principle be different.
> 
> There's probably some argument that could have been made that the
> irqchip and clocksource/timer driver should have been unified since
> they're unified in the hardware and have this awkward programming
> relationship, but that didn't fit the Linux model very well and I
> think having them factored like this encourages future versions of the
> hardware to adapt to the model the software wants.

Ok, thanks.

  -- Daniel

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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:27:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161012092711.GC1697@mai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161011202850.GK19318@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 04:28:50PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:18:12PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Rich,
> > 
> > On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 05:34:22AM +0000, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > At the hardware level, the J-Core PIT is integrated with the interrupt
> > > controller, but it is represented as its own device and has an
> > > independent programming interface. It provides a 12-bit countdown
> > > timer, which is not presently used, and a periodic timer. The interval
> > > length for the latter is programmable via a 32-bit throttle register
> > > whose units are determined by a bus-period register. The periodic
> > > timer is used to implement both periodic and oneshot clock event
> > > modes; in oneshot mode the interrupt handler simply disables the timer
> > > as soon as it fires.
> > > 
> > > Despite its device tree node representing an interrupt for the PIT,
> > > the actual irq generated is programmable, not hard-wired. The driver
> > > is responsible for programming the PIT to generate the hardware irq
> > > number that the DT assigns to it.
> > > 
> > > On SMP configurations, J-Core provides cpu-local instances of the PIT;
> > > no broadcast timer is needed. This driver supports the creation of the
> > > necessary per-cpu clock_event_device instances.
> > 
> > For my personnal information, why no broadcast timer is needed ?
> 
> Broadcast timer is only needed if you don't have percpu local timers.
> Early on in SMP development I actually tested with an ipi broadcast
> timer and performance was noticably worse.

Obviously. I thought there were another reason related to power management.
 
> > Are the CPUs on always-on power down ?
> 
> For now they are always on and don't even have the sleep instruction
> (i.e. stop cpu clock until interrupt) implemented. Adding sleep will
> be the first power-saving step, and perhaps the only one for now,
> since there doesn't seem to be any indication (according to the ppl
> working on the hardware) that a deeper sleep would provide significant
> additional savings.

Ok.

However, the 'sleep' state is not, in the power management terminology,
the idle state described above. It is called "clock gated" / "Wait for
Interrupt".

The 'sleep' state lose the CPU context.
 
> > > A nanosecond-resolution clocksource is provided using the J-Core "RTC"
> > > registers, which give a 64-bit seconds count and 32-bit nanoseconds
> > > that wrap every second. The driver converts these to a full-range
> > > 32-bit nanoseconds count.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/clocksource/Kconfig     |  10 ++
> > >  drivers/clocksource/Makefile    |   1 +
> > >  drivers/clocksource/jcore-pit.c | 231 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  include/linux/cpuhotplug.h      |   1 +
> > >  4 files changed, 243 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/clocksource/jcore-pit.c
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > > index 5677886..95dd78b 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > > @@ -407,6 +407,16 @@ config SYS_SUPPORTS_SH_TMU
> > >  config SYS_SUPPORTS_EM_STI
> > >          bool
> > >  
> > > +config CLKSRC_JCORE_PIT
> > > +	bool "J-Core PIT timer driver"
> > > +	depends on OF && (SUPERH || COMPILE_TEST)
> > 
> > Actually the idea is to have the SUPERH to select this timer, not create
> > a dependency on SUPERH from here.
> > 
> > We don't want to prompt in the configuration menu the drivers because it
> > would be impossible to anyone to know which timer comes with which
> > hardware, so we let the platform to select the timer it needs.
> 
> I thought we discussed this before. For users building a kernel for
> legacy SH systems, especially in the current state where they're only
> supported with hard-coded board files rather than device tree, it
> makes no sense to build drivers for J-core hardware. It would make
> sense to be on by default for CONFIG_SH_DEVICE_TREE with a compatible
> CPU selection, but at least at this time, not for SUPERH in general.

Probably I am missing the point but why the user would have to unselect
this driver manually ? The user wants a config file nothing more or a very
trivial option. Can you imagine someone can know every single IP block for
each boards of the same arch and be able to disable/enable the right ones ?

> Anyway I'd really like to do this non-invasively as long as we have a
> mix of legacy and new stuff and the legacy stuff is not readily
> testable. Once all of arch/sh is moved over to device tree, could we
> revisit this and make all the drivers follow a common policy (on by
> default if they're associated with boards/SoCs using a matching or
> compatible CPU model, or something like that, but still able to be
> disabled manually, since the user might be trying to get a tiny-ish
> embedded kernel)?

I understand the goal is to have one single configuration and everything
DT based and it sounds great but what is missing here is just a subarch,
not an option to enable/disable the timer.

Give a try with:

make ARCH=arm multi_v7_defconfig menuconfig

--> System Type

That is what you are looking for, a SUPERH config option selecting all the
common options and then a JCORE config option adding the different missing
bits, namely the CLKSRC_JCORE_PIT.

> > The exception is to enable in order to compile on non-native platform to
> > compile-test a bunch of drivers (eg. compile most of the clocksource / 
> > clockevents drivers on a x86 big server).
> > 
> > That's why we should have:
> > 
> > config CLKSRC_JCORE_PIT
> > 	bool "J-Core PIT timer driver" if COMPILE_TEST
> > 
> > So the jcore pit driver option appears only if compile test is enabled
> > otherwise it is a silent option and the user doesn't have to deal with
> > it. Having consistent dependency like the other drivers will help future
> > changes to consolidate the Kconfig.
> 
> I don't think this matches the user expectation for the arch yet. For
> now we have a j2_defconfig that enables the drivers and other kernel
> settings expected to be useful for J-core socs. I want to modernize
> this all but that's a separate project.
> 
> > [ ... ]              
> > 
> > > +#define REG_PITEN		0x00
> > > +#define REG_THROT		0x10
> > > +#define REG_COUNT		0x14
> > > +#define REG_BUSPD		0x18
> > > +#define REG_SECHI		0x20
> > > +#define REG_SECLO		0x24
> > > +#define REG_NSEC		0x28
> > > +
> > > +struct jcore_pit {
> > > +	struct clock_event_device	ced;
> > > +	__iomem void			*base;
> > 
> > It is not '__iomem void *' but 'void __iomem *'. This appears multiple
> > times in this code.
> 
> OK, I'll change that.
> 
> > > +	unsigned long			periodic_delta;
> > > +	unsigned			cpu;
> > 
> > This field is pointless, 'cpu' is only used for a trace in the init
> > function which has already the cpu has parameter.
> 
> OK, will remove. It was needed for the old notify framework but not
> for cpu hotplug framework, I think.
> 
> > > +	u32				enable_val;
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +static __iomem void		*jcore_pit_base;
> > 
> > static void __iomem *jcore_pit_base;
> 
> OK.
> 
> > > +struct jcore_pit __percpu	*jcore_pit_percpu;
> > 
> > static.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > [ ... ]
> > 
> > > +static int __init jcore_pit_init(struct device_node *node)
> > > +{
> > 
> > [ ... ]
> 
> Was there something analogous you wanted me to change here, or just
> leftover quoting?

No, I just cut until the function name in order to give the context for
the next comment and then cut inside the function.

> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * The J-Core PIT is not hard-wired to a particular IRQ, but
> > > +	 * integrated with the interrupt controller such that the IRQ it
> > > +	 * generates is programmable. The programming interface has a
> > > +	 * legacy field which was an interrupt priority for AIC1, but
> > > +	 * which is OR'd onto bits 2-5 of the generated IRQ number when
> > > +	 * used with J-Core AIC2, so set it to match these bits.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	hwirq = irq_get_irq_data(pit_irq)->hwirq;
> > > +	irqprio = (hwirq >> 2) & PIT_PRIO_MASK;
> > > +	enable_val = (1U << PIT_ENABLE_SHIFT)
> > > +		   | (hwirq << PIT_IRQ_SHIFT)
> > > +		   | (irqprio << PIT_PRIO_SHIFT);
> > > +
> > 
> > Why mention AIC1 if there is not test to check if AIC1 || AIC2 ?
> > 
> > Will be the same information available if the irqchip is AIC1 ?
> 
> The bit layout of the PIT enable register is:
> 
> 	.....e..ppppiiiiiiii............
> 
> where the .'s indicate unrelated/unused bits, e is enable, p is
> priority, and i is hard irq number.
> 
> For the PIT included in AIC1 (obsolete but still in use), any hard irq
> (trap number) can be programmed via the 8 iiiiiiii bits, and a
> priority (0-15) is programmable separately in the pppp bits.
> 
> For the PIT included in AIC2 (current), the programming interface is
> equivalent modulo interrupt mapping. This is why a different
> compatible tag was not used. However only traps 64-127 (the ones
> actually intended to be used for interrupts, rather than
> syscalls/exceptions/etc.) can be programmed (the high 2 bits of i are
> ignored) and the priority pppp is <<2'd and or'd onto the irq number.
> This was a poor decision made on the hardware engineering side based
> on a wrong assumption that preserving old priority mapping of outdated
> software was important, whereas priorities weren't/aren't even being
> used.
> 
> When we do the next round of interrupt controller improvements (AIC3)
> the PIT programming interface should remain compatible with the
> driver; likely the priority bits will just be ignored.
> 
> If we do want to change the programming interface beyond this at some
> point (that maay be a good idea, since we have identified several
> things that are less than ideal for Linux, like the sechi/seclo/ns
> clocksource), a new compatible tag will be added instead.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Can you add your answer as a comment for
the bits dance above ?

> > I have to admin I find strange this driver has to invoke irq_get_irq_data(),
> > it is the only one and it sounds even strange it has to be stored per cpu below.
> 
> The timer will not actually generate the irq it's assigned to (or any
> interrupt at all) unless/until it's programmed for the (hard) irq
> number. The need to use irq_get_irq_data comes from the fact that the
> hardware needs the hard irq number, not a virq number, which could in
> principle be different.
> 
> There's probably some argument that could have been made that the
> irqchip and clocksource/timer driver should have been unified since
> they're unified in the hardware and have this awkward programming
> relationship, but that didn't fit the Linux model very well and I
> think having them factored like this encourages future versions of the
> hardware to adapt to the model the software wants.

Ok, thanks.

  -- Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-12  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-09  5:34 [PATCH v8 0/2] J-Core timer support Rich Felker
     [not found] ` <cover.1475990489.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-09  5:34   ` [PATCH v8 1/2] of: add J-Core timer bindings Rich Felker
2016-10-09  5:34     ` Rich Felker
2016-10-09  5:34     ` Rich Felker
2016-10-09  5:34 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver Rich Felker
2016-10-11 18:18   ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-10-11 18:18     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-10-11 20:28     ` Rich Felker
2016-10-11 20:28       ` Rich Felker
2016-10-12  9:27       ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2016-10-12  9:27         ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-10-12 17:02         ` Rich Felker
2016-10-12 17:02           ` Rich Felker
2016-10-12 21:31           ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-10-12 21:31             ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-10-13  5:04             ` Rich Felker
2016-10-13  5:04               ` Rich Felker
2016-10-13 19:25             ` Rich Felker
2016-10-13 19:25               ` Rich Felker
     [not found]               ` <20161013192542.GW19318-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-13 19:48                 ` Rich Felker
2016-10-13 19:48                   ` Rich Felker
2016-10-13 19:48                   ` Rich Felker

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