From: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tao Huang <huangtao-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>,
Brian Norris
<briannorris-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Andreas Mohr <andi-5+Cda9B46AM@public.gmane.org>,
"open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..."
<linux-rockchip-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
Tony Xie <tony.xie-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>,
John Stultz <john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:53:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161012165351.GA20472@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=Ug9P1XDvF-Z_gPeU4CtFzoXQZuy7rmdg4FNGFdT77ENQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:27:35AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > drivers/iio/accel/kxcjk-1013.c: kxcjk1013_runtime_resume()
> > drivers/iio/accel/bmc150-accel-core.c:bmc150_accel_runtime_resume()
> > drivers/iio/accel/mma8452.c:mma8452_runtime_resume()
> > drivers/iio/accel/mma9551_core.c:mma9551_sleep()
>
> As far as I can tell these drivers will not suffer unduly from my
> change. Worse case they will delay 20us more, which is listed as the
> max.
>
20 ms.
> Also note that I assume the reason you flagged these is because they
> follow the pattern:
>
> if (sleep_val < 20000)
> usleep_range(sleep_val, 20000);
> else
> msleep_interruptible(sleep_val/1000);
>
Correct
> I will note that usleep_range() is and has always been
> uninterruptible, since the implementation says:
>
> void __sched usleep_range(unsigned long min, unsigned long max)
> {
> __set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> do_usleep_range(min, max);
> }
>
Good point.
> So I'm not at all convinced that we are changing behavior here. The
> "interruptible" vs. "uninterruptible" affects whether signals can
> interrupt the sleep, not whether a random wake up of a task can. What
> we really need to know is if they are affected by a wakeup.
>
Yes, you are correct.
> > kernel/trace/ring_buffer.c:rb_test()
>
> I assume that the person who wrote this code was confused since they wrote:
>
> set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> /* Now sleep between a min of 100-300us and a max of 1ms */
> usleep_range(((data->cnt % 3) + 1) * 100, 1000);
>
> That doesn't seem to make sense given the first line of usleep_range().
>
... which, for those who don't pay attention (like me), is
__set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> In any case, again I don't think I am changing behavior.
>
> > A possible solution might be to introduce usleep_range_interruptible()
> > and use it there.
>
> This could be a useful function, but I don't think we need it if we
> find someone who needs a wakeup to cut short a sleep. We can just
> call one of the schedule functions directly and use a timeout.
>
Agreed.
>
> Thank you for searching through for stuff and for your review, though!
>
No problem. Thanks for correcting me.
Note that I also searched for use of usleep_range() in conjunction with a
a task wakeup, but did not find anything. I did find a large number of cases,
though, where the explicit assumption is made that the minimum sleep time
is well defined.
Guenter
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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
Brian Norris <briannorris@chromium.org>,
Tao Huang <huangtao@rock-chips.com>,
Tony Xie <tony.xie@rock-chips.com>,
"open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..."
<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:53:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161012165351.GA20472@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=Ug9P1XDvF-Z_gPeU4CtFzoXQZuy7rmdg4FNGFdT77ENQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:27:35AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> > drivers/iio/accel/kxcjk-1013.c: kxcjk1013_runtime_resume()
> > drivers/iio/accel/bmc150-accel-core.c:bmc150_accel_runtime_resume()
> > drivers/iio/accel/mma8452.c:mma8452_runtime_resume()
> > drivers/iio/accel/mma9551_core.c:mma9551_sleep()
>
> As far as I can tell these drivers will not suffer unduly from my
> change. Worse case they will delay 20us more, which is listed as the
> max.
>
20 ms.
> Also note that I assume the reason you flagged these is because they
> follow the pattern:
>
> if (sleep_val < 20000)
> usleep_range(sleep_val, 20000);
> else
> msleep_interruptible(sleep_val/1000);
>
Correct
> I will note that usleep_range() is and has always been
> uninterruptible, since the implementation says:
>
> void __sched usleep_range(unsigned long min, unsigned long max)
> {
> __set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> do_usleep_range(min, max);
> }
>
Good point.
> So I'm not at all convinced that we are changing behavior here. The
> "interruptible" vs. "uninterruptible" affects whether signals can
> interrupt the sleep, not whether a random wake up of a task can. What
> we really need to know is if they are affected by a wakeup.
>
Yes, you are correct.
> > kernel/trace/ring_buffer.c:rb_test()
>
> I assume that the person who wrote this code was confused since they wrote:
>
> set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> /* Now sleep between a min of 100-300us and a max of 1ms */
> usleep_range(((data->cnt % 3) + 1) * 100, 1000);
>
> That doesn't seem to make sense given the first line of usleep_range().
>
... which, for those who don't pay attention (like me), is
__set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> In any case, again I don't think I am changing behavior.
>
> > A possible solution might be to introduce usleep_range_interruptible()
> > and use it there.
>
> This could be a useful function, but I don't think we need it if we
> find someone who needs a wakeup to cut short a sleep. We can just
> call one of the schedule functions directly and use a timeout.
>
Agreed.
>
> Thank you for searching through for stuff and for your review, though!
>
No problem. Thanks for correcting me.
Note that I also searched for use of usleep_range() in conjunction with a
a task wakeup, but did not find anything. I did find a large number of cases,
though, where the explicit assumption is made that the minimum sleep time
is well defined.
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-12 16:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-10 21:04 [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process() Douglas Anderson
2016-10-10 21:04 ` Douglas Anderson
2016-10-10 22:39 ` Doug Anderson
2016-10-11 7:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-11 16:33 ` Doug Anderson
2016-10-12 8:56 ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12 8:56 ` Mark Brown
2016-10-11 18:25 ` Andreas Mohr
2016-10-11 18:25 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20161011182541.GA32165-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-12 13:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-12 13:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-12 17:39 ` Doug Anderson
2016-10-11 20:34 ` Heiko Stuebner
2016-10-11 20:34 ` Heiko Stuebner
[not found] ` <1476133442-17757-1-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-11 18:54 ` Brian Norris
2016-10-11 18:54 ` Brian Norris
2016-10-11 19:30 ` Andreas Mohr
2016-10-11 19:30 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20161011193034.GA10646-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-11 20:02 ` Doug Anderson
2016-10-11 20:02 ` Doug Anderson
[not found] ` <CAD=FV=Ua8c18SGr54ThmVe1oR3bqfCyHxfhL=6z8vJXkMiUedA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-11 20:40 ` Andreas Mohr
2016-10-11 20:40 ` Andreas Mohr
2016-10-12 16:03 ` [v2] " Guenter Roeck
2016-10-12 16:03 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <20161012160309.GA19146-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-12 16:27 ` Doug Anderson
2016-10-12 16:27 ` Doug Anderson
[not found] ` <CAD=FV=Ug9P1XDvF-Z_gPeU4CtFzoXQZuy7rmdg4FNGFdT77ENQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-12 16:53 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2016-10-12 16:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-10-18 13:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Daniel Kurtz
2016-10-18 20:29 ` Doug Anderson
2016-10-20 8:57 ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-10-20 9:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
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