From: mhocko@kernel.org (Michal Hocko)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] mm/memblock: prepare a capability to support memblock near alloc
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:31:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161026093152.GE18382@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58101EB4.2080305@huawei.com>
On Wed 26-10-16 11:10:44, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
>
>
> On 2016/10/25 21:23, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 25-10-16 10:59:17, Zhen Lei wrote:
> >> If HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES is selected, and some memoryless numa nodes are
> >> actually exist. The percpu variable areas and numa control blocks of that
> >> memoryless numa nodes need to be allocated from the nearest available
> >> node to improve performance.
> >>
> >> Although memblock_alloc_try_nid and memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid try the
> >> specified nid at the first time, but if that allocation failed it will
> >> directly drop to use NUMA_NO_NODE. This mean any nodes maybe possible at
> >> the second time.
> >>
> >> To compatible the above old scene, I use a marco node_distance_ready to
> >> control it. By default, the marco node_distance_ready is not defined in
> >> any platforms, the above mentioned functions will work as normal as
> >> before. Otherwise, they will try the nearest node first.
> >
> > I am sorry but it is absolutely unclear to me _what_ is the motivation
> > of the patch. Is this a performance optimization, correctness issue or
> > something else? Could you please restate what is the problem, why do you
> > think it has to be fixed at memblock layer and describe what the actual
> > fix is please?
>
> This is a performance optimization.
Do you have any numbers to back the improvements?
> The problem is if some memoryless numa nodes are
> actually exist, for example: there are total 4 nodes, 0,1,2,3, node 1 has no memory,
> and the node distances is as below:
> ---------board-------
> | |
> | |
> socket0 socket1
> / \ / \
> / \ / \
> node0 node1 node2 node3
> distance[1][0] is nearer than distance[1][2] and distance[1][3]. CPUs on node1 access
> the memory of node0 is faster than node2 or node3.
>
> Linux defines a lot of percpu variables, each cpu has a copy of it and most of the time
> only to access their own percpu area. In this example, we hope the percpu area of CPUs
> on node1 allocated from node0. But without these patches, it's not sure that.
I am not familiar with the percpu allocator much so I might be
completely missig a point but why cannot this be solved in the percpu
allocator directly e.g. by using cpu_to_mem which should already be
memoryless aware.
Generating a new API while we have means to use an existing one sounds
just not right to me.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Leizhen (ThunderTown)" <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Zefan Li <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Xinwei Hu <huxinwei@huawei.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/memblock: prepare a capability to support memblock near alloc
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:31:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161026093152.GE18382@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58101EB4.2080305@huawei.com>
On Wed 26-10-16 11:10:44, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
>
>
> On 2016/10/25 21:23, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 25-10-16 10:59:17, Zhen Lei wrote:
> >> If HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES is selected, and some memoryless numa nodes are
> >> actually exist. The percpu variable areas and numa control blocks of that
> >> memoryless numa nodes need to be allocated from the nearest available
> >> node to improve performance.
> >>
> >> Although memblock_alloc_try_nid and memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid try the
> >> specified nid at the first time, but if that allocation failed it will
> >> directly drop to use NUMA_NO_NODE. This mean any nodes maybe possible at
> >> the second time.
> >>
> >> To compatible the above old scene, I use a marco node_distance_ready to
> >> control it. By default, the marco node_distance_ready is not defined in
> >> any platforms, the above mentioned functions will work as normal as
> >> before. Otherwise, they will try the nearest node first.
> >
> > I am sorry but it is absolutely unclear to me _what_ is the motivation
> > of the patch. Is this a performance optimization, correctness issue or
> > something else? Could you please restate what is the problem, why do you
> > think it has to be fixed at memblock layer and describe what the actual
> > fix is please?
>
> This is a performance optimization.
Do you have any numbers to back the improvements?
> The problem is if some memoryless numa nodes are
> actually exist, for example: there are total 4 nodes, 0,1,2,3, node 1 has no memory,
> and the node distances is as below:
> ---------board-------
> | |
> | |
> socket0 socket1
> / \ / \
> / \ / \
> node0 node1 node2 node3
> distance[1][0] is nearer than distance[1][2] and distance[1][3]. CPUs on node1 access
> the memory of node0 is faster than node2 or node3.
>
> Linux defines a lot of percpu variables, each cpu has a copy of it and most of the time
> only to access their own percpu area. In this example, we hope the percpu area of CPUs
> on node1 allocated from node0. But without these patches, it's not sure that.
I am not familiar with the percpu allocator much so I might be
completely missig a point but why cannot this be solved in the percpu
allocator directly e.g. by using cpu_to_mem which should already be
memoryless aware.
Generating a new API while we have means to use an existing one sounds
just not right to me.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Leizhen (ThunderTown)" <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Zefan Li <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Xinwei Hu <huxinwei@huawei.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/memblock: prepare a capability to support memblock near alloc
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:31:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161026093152.GE18382@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58101EB4.2080305@huawei.com>
On Wed 26-10-16 11:10:44, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
>
>
> On 2016/10/25 21:23, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 25-10-16 10:59:17, Zhen Lei wrote:
> >> If HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES is selected, and some memoryless numa nodes are
> >> actually exist. The percpu variable areas and numa control blocks of that
> >> memoryless numa nodes need to be allocated from the nearest available
> >> node to improve performance.
> >>
> >> Although memblock_alloc_try_nid and memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid try the
> >> specified nid at the first time, but if that allocation failed it will
> >> directly drop to use NUMA_NO_NODE. This mean any nodes maybe possible at
> >> the second time.
> >>
> >> To compatible the above old scene, I use a marco node_distance_ready to
> >> control it. By default, the marco node_distance_ready is not defined in
> >> any platforms, the above mentioned functions will work as normal as
> >> before. Otherwise, they will try the nearest node first.
> >
> > I am sorry but it is absolutely unclear to me _what_ is the motivation
> > of the patch. Is this a performance optimization, correctness issue or
> > something else? Could you please restate what is the problem, why do you
> > think it has to be fixed at memblock layer and describe what the actual
> > fix is please?
>
> This is a performance optimization.
Do you have any numbers to back the improvements?
> The problem is if some memoryless numa nodes are
> actually exist, for example: there are total 4 nodes, 0,1,2,3, node 1 has no memory,
> and the node distances is as below:
> ---------board-------
> | |
> | |
> socket0 socket1
> / \ / \
> / \ / \
> node0 node1 node2 node3
> distance[1][0] is nearer than distance[1][2] and distance[1][3]. CPUs on node1 access
> the memory of node0 is faster than node2 or node3.
>
> Linux defines a lot of percpu variables, each cpu has a copy of it and most of the time
> only to access their own percpu area. In this example, we hope the percpu area of CPUs
> on node1 allocated from node0. But without these patches, it's not sure that.
I am not familiar with the percpu allocator much so I might be
completely missig a point but why cannot this be solved in the percpu
allocator directly e.g. by using cpu_to_mem which should already be
memoryless aware.
Generating a new API while we have means to use an existing one sounds
just not right to me.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-26 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-25 2:59 [PATCH 0/2] to support memblock near alloc and memoryless on arm64 Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/memblock: prepare a capability to support memblock near alloc Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-25 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-25 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26 3:10 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-26 3:10 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-26 3:10 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-26 9:31 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-10-26 9:31 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26 9:31 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-27 2:41 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 2:41 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 2:41 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 7:22 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-27 7:22 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-27 7:22 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-27 8:23 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 8:23 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 8:23 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-25 2:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64/numa: support HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` Zhen Lei
2016-10-25 2:59 ` Zhen Lei
2016-10-26 18:36 ` Will Deacon
2016-10-26 18:36 ` Will Deacon
2016-10-26 18:36 ` Will Deacon
2016-10-27 3:54 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 3:54 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2016-10-27 3:54 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
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