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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: PM regression with LED changes in next-20161109
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:29:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161110162925.GA28832@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bd5333e-0dbb-6333-0a48-ca4d3a990f9c@samsung.com>

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Hi!

> >>>Looks like commit 883d32ce3385 ("leds: core: Add support for poll()ing
> >>>the sysfs brightness attr for changes.") breaks runtime PM for me.
> >>>
> >>>On my omap dm3730 based test system, idle power consumption is over 70
> >>>times higher now with this patch! It goes from about 6mW for the core
> >>>system to over 440mW during idle meaning there's some busy timer now
> >>>active.
> >>>
> >>>Reverting this patch fixes the issue. Any ideas?

Are you using any LED that toggles with high frequency? Like perhaps
LED that is lit when CPU is active?

> >So a user can do "echo 128 > brightness && cat brightness" and
> >get out 0, or 128, depending purely on timing.
...
> >                Reading from this file while a trigger is active returns
> >the
> >                top brightness trigger is going to use.

Yes, that sounds sane.

> It seems that we should get back to your initial approach. i.e. only
> brightness changes caused by hardware should be reported.

I don't think enabling poll() here is good idea. Some hardware won't
be able to tell you that it changed the state. Returning maximum
brightness trigger is going to use seems easier/better.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: PM regression with LED changes in next-20161109
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:29:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161110162925.GA28832@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bd5333e-0dbb-6333-0a48-ca4d3a990f9c@samsung.com>

Hi!

> >>>Looks like commit 883d32ce3385 ("leds: core: Add support for poll()ing
> >>>the sysfs brightness attr for changes.") breaks runtime PM for me.
> >>>
> >>>On my omap dm3730 based test system, idle power consumption is over 70
> >>>times higher now with this patch! It goes from about 6mW for the core
> >>>system to over 440mW during idle meaning there's some busy timer now
> >>>active.
> >>>
> >>>Reverting this patch fixes the issue. Any ideas?

Are you using any LED that toggles with high frequency? Like perhaps
LED that is lit when CPU is active?

> >So a user can do "echo 128 > brightness && cat brightness" and
> >get out 0, or 128, depending purely on timing.
...
> >                Reading from this file while a trigger is active returns
> >the
> >                top brightness trigger is going to use.

Yes, that sounds sane.

> It seems that we should get back to your initial approach. i.e. only
> brightness changes caused by hardware should be reported.

I don't think enabling poll() here is good idea. Some hardware won't
be able to tell you that it changed the state. Returning maximum
brightness trigger is going to use seems easier/better.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-10 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-09 19:23 PM regression with LED changes in next-20161109 Tony Lindgren
2016-11-09 19:23 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-11-09 20:45 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-09 20:45   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-10  8:49   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10  8:49     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 12:56     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-10 12:56       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-10 13:04       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 13:04         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 13:55         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-10 13:55           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-10 16:36           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10 16:36             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10 16:29       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2016-11-10 16:29         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10 16:44         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 16:44           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 20:48           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10 20:48             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-11  8:25             ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-11  8:25               ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 17:55         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-11-10 17:55           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-11-10 20:29           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10 20:29             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10 21:34             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-10 21:34               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-11 12:01               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-11 12:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-11 17:03                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-11 17:03                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-11 19:28                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-11 19:28                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-11 22:12                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-11 22:12                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-12  8:03                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-12  8:03                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-13  9:10                         ` Three different LED brightnesses (was Re: PM regression with LED changes in next-20161109) Pavel Machek
2016-11-13  9:10                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-13  9:44                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-13  9:44                             ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-13 20:45                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-13 20:45                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-12 10:24                     ` PM regression with LED changes in next-20161109 Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-12 10:24                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-12 10:33                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-12 10:33                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-12 10:33                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-12 19:14                         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-12 19:14                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-12 21:14                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-12 21:14                             ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-13 11:44                             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-13 11:44                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-13 13:52                               ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-13 13:52                                 ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-14  9:12                                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-14  9:12                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-14  9:12                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-14 12:51                                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-14 12:51                                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 10:01                                     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 10:01                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 10:09                                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 10:09                                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 10:31                                     ` LEDs that change brightness "itself" -- that's a trigger. " Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 10:31                                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 10:58                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 10:58                                         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 11:11                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 11:11                                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 11:21                                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 11:21                                             ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 11:48                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 11:48                                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 12:06                                               ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 12:06                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 12:11                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 12:11                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-15 13:28                                                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 13:28                                                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 13:48                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 13:48                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 14:04                                                     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 14:04                                                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 14:30                                                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 14:30                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 14:41                                                         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-15 14:41                                                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-11-17 22:12                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-17 22:12                                                   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 11:17                                         ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-15 11:17                                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-14  8:31                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-14  8:31                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-11 22:06                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-11 22:06                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-10  8:34 ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10  8:34   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-10 15:11   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-11-10 15:11     ` Tony Lindgren

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