From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Cc: "kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Hans Liljestrand <ishkamiel@gmail.com>,
David Windsor <dwindsor@gmail.com>,
aik@ozlabs.ru, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: Conversion from atomic_t to refcount_t: summary of issues
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:13:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161128121347.GY3092@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2236FBA76BA1254E88B949DDB74E612B41C1884B@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:56:17AM +0000, Reshetova, Elena wrote:
> First, about the types.
> We do have a number of instances of atomic_long_t used as refcounters, see below:
Right, those were expected. We could do long_refcount_t I suppose.
> And yes, we *do* have at least one instance (again not 100% finished,
> more might show up) of atomic64_t used as refcounter:
>
> arch/powerpc/mm/mmu_context_iommu.c:
> struct mm_iommu_table_group_mem_t {
> ...
> atomic64_t mapped;
> ...
> }
*urgh*, Alexey does that really need to be atomic64_t ? Wouldn't
atomic_long_t work for you?
> Next with regards to API. Networking code surely wins the competitions
> of giving the most trouble. The biggest overall issue seem to be in
> fact that freeing the object happens not when refcount is zero, but
> when it is -1, which is obviously impossible to implement with current
> API that only returns unsigned int.
>
> Most common constructions that are hard to fit into current API are:
>
> - if (atomic_cmpxchg(&cur->refcnt, 1, 0) == 1) {...} (typical for networking code)
Right, we spoke about this before, and the dec_if_one() you mentioned
below could replace that.
> - if (atomic_cmpxchg(&p->refcnt, 0, -1) == 0) {..} (typical for networking code)
That's really weird, a refcount of -1 doesn't really make sense.
> - if (atomic_add_unless(&inode->i_count, -1, 1)) (typical for fs and other code)
And that's dec_not_one(), really weird that, why do they need that?
> Also, refcount_add() seems to be needed in number of places since it
> looks like refcounts in some cases are increased by two or by some
> constant. Luckily we haven't seen a need a sub().
There is sub_and_test() usage in for example memcontrol.c.
> The following functions are also needed quite commonly:
> refcount_inc_return()
> refcount_dec_return()
What for? They don't typicaly make sense for refcounting? Other than the
trivial pattern of dec_return() == 0, which is already well covered.
> I also saw one use of this from net/ipv4/udp.c:
> if (!sk || !atomic_inc_not_zero_hint(&sk->sk_refcnt, 2))
Yes, that one is quite unfortunate, we can trivially support that
ofcourse, but it does make a bit of a mess of things.
> Lastly as I mentioned previously, almost half of invocations of dec()
> in the code is plain atomic_dec() without any if statements and any
> checks on what happens as a result of dec(). Peter previously
> suggested to turn them into WARN_ON(refcount_dec_and_test()), but
> looking in the code, it is not really clear what would this help to
> achieve?
Well, it clearly marks where refcounting goes bad and we leak crap. A
regular decrement should _never_ hit 0.
> It is clear that in that places the caller explicitly
> doesn't care about how the dec() goes and what is the end result....
No, the typical usage would be you _know_ it will not hit 0. Any other
usage is broken and bad.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-28 12:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-28 11:56 [kernel-hardening] Conversion from atomic_t to refcount_t: summary of issues Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-28 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-11-28 12:44 ` [kernel-hardening] " Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-28 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-28 14:12 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-29 3:19 ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-11-29 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-30 0:23 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-11-29 15:35 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-29 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 19:15 ` [kernel-hardening] " Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 21:31 ` David Windsor
2016-12-01 23:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 23:20 ` Kees Cook
2016-12-01 23:29 ` David Windsor
2016-12-02 1:17 ` Boqun Feng
2016-12-02 20:25 ` David Windsor
2016-12-07 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-07 19:03 ` David Windsor
2016-12-09 14:48 ` David Windsor
2016-12-07 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-01 23:20 ` David Windsor
2016-12-07 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-02 15:44 ` Liljestrand Hans
2016-12-02 16:14 ` Greg KH
2016-12-07 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-07 15:59 ` David Windsor
2016-12-07 16:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-07 16:31 ` David Windsor
2016-12-16 12:10 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-16 14:01 ` [kernel-hardening] " Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-19 7:55 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-19 10:12 ` [kernel-hardening] " Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-20 9:13 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-20 9:30 ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2016-12-20 9:40 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-20 9:51 ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2016-12-20 9:55 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-20 10:26 ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2016-12-20 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-20 9:58 ` [kernel-hardening] " Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-20 10:55 ` [kernel-hardening] " Liljestrand Hans
2016-12-20 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-20 13:35 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-12-20 15:20 ` Liljestrand Hans
2016-12-20 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-10 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-07 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
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