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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Christoffer Dall" <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	"Marc Zyngier" <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	shankerd@codeaurora.org, timur@codeaurora.org,
	"Mark Langsdorf" <mlangsdo@redhat.com>,
	"Mark Salter" <msalter@redhat.com>,
	"Jon Masters" <jcm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] arm64: Create and use __tlbi_dsb() macros
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:12:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170113161209.GI3253@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f8057f5-d33f-15b3-de9f-6e718c23e97d@codeaurora.org>

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12:36AM -0500, Christopher Covington wrote:
> On 01/12/2017 11:58 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 09:41:16AM -0500, Christopher Covington wrote:
> >> +#define __tlbi_asm_dsb(as, op, attr, ...) do {				       \
> >> +		__TLBI_FOR(op, ##__VA_ARGS__)				       \
> >> +			asm (__TLBI_INSTR(op, ##__VA_ARGS__)		       \
> >> +			__TLBI_IO(op, ##__VA_ARGS__));			       \
> >> +		asm volatile (	     as			"\ndsb " #attr "\n"    \
> >> +		: : : "memory"); } while (0)
> >> +
> >> +#define __tlbi_dsb(...)	__tlbi_asm_dsb("", ##__VA_ARGS__)
> > 
> > I can't deny that this is cool, but ultimately it's completely unreadable.
> > What I was thinking you'd do would be make __tlbi expand to:
> > 
> >   tlbi
> >   dsb
> >   tlbi
> >   dsb
> > 
> > for Falkor, and:
> > 
> >   tlbi
> >   nop
> >   nop
> >   nop
> > 
> > for everybody else.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. So would __tlbi take a dsb sharability argument in
> your proposal? Or would it be communicated in some other fashion, maybe inferred
> from the tlbi argument? Or would the workaround dsbs all be the worst/broadest
> case?

I think always using inner-shareable should be ok. If you wanted to optimise
this, you'd want to avoid the workaround altogether for non-shareable
invalidation, but that's fairly rare and I doubt you'd be able to measure
the impact.

> > Wouldn't that localise this change sufficiently that you wouldn't need
> > to change all the callers and encode the looping in your cpp macros?
> > 
> > I realise you get an extra dsb in some places with that change, but I'd
> > like to see numbers for the impact of that on top of the workaround. If
> > it's an issue, then an alternative sequence would be:
> > 
> >   tlbi
> >   dsb
> >   tlbi
> > 
> > and you'd rely on the existing dsb to complete that.
> > 
> > Having said that, I don't understand how your current loop code works
> > when the workaround is applied. AFAICT, you end up emitting something
> > like:
> > 
> > dsb ishst
> > for i in 0 to n
> > 	tlbi va+i
> > dsb
> > tlbi va+n
> > dsb
> > 
> > which looks wrong to me. Am I misreading something here?
> 
> You're right, I am off by 1 << (PAGE_SHIFT - 12) here. I would need to
> increment, compare, not take the loop branch (regular for loop stuff),
> then decrement (missing) and perform TLB invalidation again (present but
> using incorrect value).

It also strikes me as odd that you only need one extra TLBI after the loop
has finished, as opposed to a tlbi; dsb; tlbi loop body (which is what you'd
get if you modified __tlbi as I suggest).

Is it sufficient to have one extra TLBI after the loop and, if so, is the
performance impact of my suggestion therefore unacceptable?

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 3/5] arm64: Create and use __tlbi_dsb() macros
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:12:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170113161209.GI3253@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f8057f5-d33f-15b3-de9f-6e718c23e97d@codeaurora.org>

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:12:36AM -0500, Christopher Covington wrote:
> On 01/12/2017 11:58 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 09:41:16AM -0500, Christopher Covington wrote:
> >> +#define __tlbi_asm_dsb(as, op, attr, ...) do {				       \
> >> +		__TLBI_FOR(op, ##__VA_ARGS__)				       \
> >> +			asm (__TLBI_INSTR(op, ##__VA_ARGS__)		       \
> >> +			__TLBI_IO(op, ##__VA_ARGS__));			       \
> >> +		asm volatile (	     as			"\ndsb " #attr "\n"    \
> >> +		: : : "memory"); } while (0)
> >> +
> >> +#define __tlbi_dsb(...)	__tlbi_asm_dsb("", ##__VA_ARGS__)
> > 
> > I can't deny that this is cool, but ultimately it's completely unreadable.
> > What I was thinking you'd do would be make __tlbi expand to:
> > 
> >   tlbi
> >   dsb
> >   tlbi
> >   dsb
> > 
> > for Falkor, and:
> > 
> >   tlbi
> >   nop
> >   nop
> >   nop
> > 
> > for everybody else.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. So would __tlbi take a dsb sharability argument in
> your proposal? Or would it be communicated in some other fashion, maybe inferred
> from the tlbi argument? Or would the workaround dsbs all be the worst/broadest
> case?

I think always using inner-shareable should be ok. If you wanted to optimise
this, you'd want to avoid the workaround altogether for non-shareable
invalidation, but that's fairly rare and I doubt you'd be able to measure
the impact.

> > Wouldn't that localise this change sufficiently that you wouldn't need
> > to change all the callers and encode the looping in your cpp macros?
> > 
> > I realise you get an extra dsb in some places with that change, but I'd
> > like to see numbers for the impact of that on top of the workaround. If
> > it's an issue, then an alternative sequence would be:
> > 
> >   tlbi
> >   dsb
> >   tlbi
> > 
> > and you'd rely on the existing dsb to complete that.
> > 
> > Having said that, I don't understand how your current loop code works
> > when the workaround is applied. AFAICT, you end up emitting something
> > like:
> > 
> > dsb ishst
> > for i in 0 to n
> > 	tlbi va+i
> > dsb
> > tlbi va+n
> > dsb
> > 
> > which looks wrong to me. Am I misreading something here?
> 
> You're right, I am off by 1 << (PAGE_SHIFT - 12) here. I would need to
> increment, compare, not take the loop branch (regular for loop stuff),
> then decrement (missing) and perform TLB invalidation again (present but
> using incorrect value).

It also strikes me as odd that you only need one extra TLBI after the loop
has finished, as opposed to a tlbi; dsb; tlbi loop body (which is what you'd
get if you modified __tlbi as I suggest).

Is it sufficient to have one extra TLBI after the loop and, if so, is the
performance impact of my suggestion therefore unacceptable?

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-13 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-11 14:41 [PATCH v3 1/5] arm64: Define Falkor v1 CPU Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41 ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] arm64: Work around Falkor erratum 1003 Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 18:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-11 18:06     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-11 18:22     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-11 18:22       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-11 18:22       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-11 18:40       ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 18:40         ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-12 15:45         ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12 15:45           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12 15:45           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12 16:12           ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-12 16:12             ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-12 16:12             ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-24 14:27             ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-24 14:27               ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-12 15:55       ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12 15:55         ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12 16:07         ` Will Deacon
2017-01-12 16:07           ` Will Deacon
2017-01-12 16:07           ` Will Deacon
2017-01-11 18:33     ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 18:33       ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 18:35       ` Timur Tabi
2017-01-11 18:35         ` Timur Tabi
2017-01-11 18:35         ` Timur Tabi
2017-01-11 18:37         ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 18:37           ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 18:40           ` Timur Tabi
2017-01-11 18:40             ` Timur Tabi
2017-01-11 18:40             ` Timur Tabi
2017-01-11 18:45             ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 18:45               ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-16 14:26               ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-16 14:26                 ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 18:50             ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-11 18:50               ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-11 18:50               ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-12  9:59           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12  9:59             ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-12  9:59             ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-24 14:54     ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-24 14:54       ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] arm64: Create and use __tlbi_dsb() macros Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-12 16:58   ` Will Deacon
2017-01-12 16:58     ` Will Deacon
2017-01-12 16:58     ` Will Deacon
2017-01-13 15:12     ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-13 15:12       ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-13 15:12       ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-13 16:12       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-01-13 16:12         ` Will Deacon
2017-01-24 22:03         ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-24 22:03           ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-24 22:03           ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] arm64: Use __tlbi_dsb() macros in KVM code Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] arm64: Work around Falkor erratum 1009 Christopher Covington
2017-01-11 14:41   ` Christopher Covington

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