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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Guochun Mao <guochun.mao@mediatek.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@atmel.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] arm: dts: mt2701: add nor flash node
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:53:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170119085303.24b8d462@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170118222010.ivc6jxpnrumemvdf@rob-hp-laptop>

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:20:10 -0600
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 02:36:50PM +1100, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > (Side note: you guys should learn about stripping irrelevant parts of
> > an e-mail when replying!)
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:40:32 +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> >   
> > > > Well this is OK I guess, but then you can also use "mediatek,mt8173-nor"
> > > > as the oldest supported compatible and be done with it, no ? It looks a
> > > > bit crappy though, I admit that ...  
> > > 
> > > Let's stop bikeshedding and wait for DT maintainers feedback
> > > before taking a decision ;-).
> > > 
> > > Rob, Mark, any opinion?  
> >  
> 
> Sigh, is how to do compatibles really not yet understood?

Apparently not, and I fear this is not the last misunderstanding on my
side ;-).

>  
> > I agree that a clarification would be good. There are really two
> > options:
> > 
> >  1. Have two compatible strings in the DT, the one that matches the
> >     exact SoC where the IP is found (first compatible string) and the
> >     one that matches some other SoC where the same IP is found (second
> >     compatible string). Originally, Linux only supports the second
> >     compatible string in its device driver, but if it happens that a
> >     difference is found between two IPs that we thought were the same,
> >     we can add support for the first compatible string in the driver,
> >     with a slightly different behavior.  
> 
> This. And no wildcards in the compatible string. 
> 
> >  2. Have a single compatible string in the DT, matching the exact SoC
> >     where the IP is found. This involves adding immediately this
> >     compatible string in the corresponding driver.  
> 
> I wouldn't object to this from a DT perspective as I have no clue 
> generally if IP blocks are "the same" or not. Subsystem maintainers will 
> object though.
> 
> > I've not really been able to figure out which of the two options is the
> > most future-proof/appropriate.  
> 
> They are both future-proof. #2 has the disadvantage of requiring a 
> kernel update for a new SoC. 
> 
> Rob

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com (Boris Brezillon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v1 2/2] arm: dts: mt2701: add nor flash node
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:53:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170119085303.24b8d462@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170118222010.ivc6jxpnrumemvdf@rob-hp-laptop>

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:20:10 -0600
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 02:36:50PM +1100, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > (Side note: you guys should learn about stripping irrelevant parts of
> > an e-mail when replying!)
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:40:32 +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> >   
> > > > Well this is OK I guess, but then you can also use "mediatek,mt8173-nor"
> > > > as the oldest supported compatible and be done with it, no ? It looks a
> > > > bit crappy though, I admit that ...  
> > > 
> > > Let's stop bikeshedding and wait for DT maintainers feedback
> > > before taking a decision ;-).
> > > 
> > > Rob, Mark, any opinion?  
> >  
> 
> Sigh, is how to do compatibles really not yet understood?

Apparently not, and I fear this is not the last misunderstanding on my
side ;-).

>  
> > I agree that a clarification would be good. There are really two
> > options:
> > 
> >  1. Have two compatible strings in the DT, the one that matches the
> >     exact SoC where the IP is found (first compatible string) and the
> >     one that matches some other SoC where the same IP is found (second
> >     compatible string). Originally, Linux only supports the second
> >     compatible string in its device driver, but if it happens that a
> >     difference is found between two IPs that we thought were the same,
> >     we can add support for the first compatible string in the driver,
> >     with a slightly different behavior.  
> 
> This. And no wildcards in the compatible string. 
> 
> >  2. Have a single compatible string in the DT, matching the exact SoC
> >     where the IP is found. This involves adding immediately this
> >     compatible string in the corresponding driver.  
> 
> I wouldn't object to this from a DT perspective as I have no clue 
> generally if IP blocks are "the same" or not. Subsystem maintainers will 
> object though.
> 
> > I've not really been able to figure out which of the two options is the
> > most future-proof/appropriate.  
> 
> They are both future-proof. #2 has the disadvantage of requiring a 
> kernel update for a new SoC. 
> 
> Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-19  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-13  7:13 [PATCH v1 0/2] add nor flash node for mt2701 Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13 ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13 ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] Documentation: mtk-quadspi: update DT bindings Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13   ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13   ` Guochun Mao
     [not found]   ` <1484291609-20195-2-git-send-email-guochun.mao-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-13 14:13     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 14:13       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 14:13       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-18 22:08       ` Rob Herring
2017-01-18 22:08         ` Rob Herring
2017-01-18 22:08         ` Rob Herring
     [not found] ` <1484291609-20195-1-git-send-email-guochun.mao-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-13  7:13   ` [PATCH v1 2/2] arm: dts: mt2701: add nor flash node Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13     ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-13  7:13     ` Guochun Mao
     [not found]     ` <1484291609-20195-3-git-send-email-guochun.mao-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-13 12:49       ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 12:49         ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 12:49         ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 14:17     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 14:17       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 14:17       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 15:12       ` Matthias Brugger
2017-01-13 15:12         ` Matthias Brugger
2017-01-13 15:12         ` Matthias Brugger
2017-01-13 15:21         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 15:21           ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]         ` <d7b866ad-5b2f-62d3-3aa3-6fa42803d625-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-13 16:13           ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 16:13             ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 16:13             ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 16:28             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 16:28               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 16:44               ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 16:44                 ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 16:44                 ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]                 ` <86c997be-f500-eaa1-3ba5-d21cff6223b7-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-13 16:56                   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 16:56                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 16:56                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-13 17:33                     ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 17:33                       ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-13 17:33                       ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]                       ` <0fafcd8d-cf99-de6b-728f-5e3637810b68-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-14  8:29                         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-14  8:29                           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-14  8:29                           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-15  0:23                           ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-15  0:23                             ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]                             ` <e7fa1542-f0e2-0e45-23b3-25d6491ae40d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-16  8:40                               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-16  8:40                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-16  8:40                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-16 16:09                                 ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-16 16:09                                   ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-16 16:09                                   ` Marek Vasut
2017-01-17  3:36                                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-01-17  3:36                                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found]                                   ` <20170117143650.5db87148-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-18 22:20                                     ` Rob Herring
2017-01-18 22:20                                       ` Rob Herring
2017-01-18 22:20                                       ` Rob Herring
2017-01-18 23:38                                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-01-18 23:38                                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-01-18 23:38                                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-01-19  2:51                                         ` Rob Herring
2017-01-19  2:51                                           ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                                           ` <CAL_Jsq+EyHtC7THLCJcwgtVtVESMOdmi3T3bBxgOqJt6BCtCHQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  8:14                                             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-19  8:14                                               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-19  8:14                                               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-19 14:18                                               ` Rob Herring
2017-01-19 14:18                                                 ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAL_Jsq+S-FYy4SmjJ3fWzBugw2zCj5TQkkfUA8QVL7SLJW3E1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-22  2:36                                                   ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-22  2:36                                                     ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-22  2:36                                                     ` Guochun Mao
2017-01-24 10:31                                                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-24 10:31                                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-24 10:38                                                       ` John Crispin
2017-01-24 10:38                                                         ` John Crispin
2017-01-24 10:38                                                         ` John Crispin
2017-01-19  7:53                                       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2017-01-19  7:53                                         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-01-17  3:32                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-01-17  3:32                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-01-17  3:32                       ` Thomas Petazzoni

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