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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] mm: vmscan: only write dirty pages that the scanner has seen twice
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:42:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170126014218.GD21211@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170123181641.23938-5-hannes@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 01:16:40PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> Dirty pages can easily reach the end of the LRU while there are still
> clean pages to reclaim around. Don't let kswapd write them back just
> because there are a lot of them. It costs more CPU to find the clean
> pages, but that's almost certainly better than to disrupt writeback
> from the flushers with LRU-order single-page writes from reclaim. And
> the flushers have been woken up by that point, so we spend IO capacity
> on flushing and CPU capacity on finding the clean cache.
> 
> Only start writing dirty pages if they have cycled around the LRU
> twice now and STILL haven't been queued on the IO device. It's
> possible that the dirty pages are so sparsely distributed across
> different bdis, inodes, memory cgroups, that the flushers take forever
> to get to the ones we want reclaimed. Once we see them twice on the
> LRU, we know that's the quicker way to find them, so do LRU writeback.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Acked-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>

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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] mm: vmscan: only write dirty pages that the scanner has seen twice
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:42:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170126014218.GD21211@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170123181641.23938-5-hannes@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 01:16:40PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> Dirty pages can easily reach the end of the LRU while there are still
> clean pages to reclaim around. Don't let kswapd write them back just
> because there are a lot of them. It costs more CPU to find the clean
> pages, but that's almost certainly better than to disrupt writeback
> from the flushers with LRU-order single-page writes from reclaim. And
> the flushers have been woken up by that point, so we spend IO capacity
> on flushing and CPU capacity on finding the clean cache.
> 
> Only start writing dirty pages if they have cycled around the LRU
> twice now and STILL haven't been queued on the IO device. It's
> possible that the dirty pages are so sparsely distributed across
> different bdis, inodes, memory cgroups, that the flushers take forever
> to get to the ones we want reclaimed. Once we see them twice on the
> LRU, we know that's the quicker way to find them, so do LRU writeback.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Acked-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-26  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-23 18:16 [PATCH 0/5] mm: vmscan: fix kswapd writeback regression Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: vmscan: scan dirty pages even in laptop mode Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26  1:27   ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26  1:27     ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26  9:52   ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26  9:52     ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26 13:13     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-23 18:16 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: vmscan: kick flushers when we encounter dirty pages on the LRU Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26  1:35   ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26  1:35     ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26  9:57   ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26  9:57     ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 17:47     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26 17:47       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26 18:47       ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 18:47         ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 13:16   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26 13:16     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-23 18:16 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: vmscan: remove old flusher wakeup from direct reclaim path Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26  1:38   ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26  1:38     ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26 10:05   ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 10:05     ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 18:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26 18:50       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26 20:45       ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 20:45         ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-27 12:01       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-27 12:01         ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-27 14:27         ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-27 14:27           ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 13:21   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26 13:21     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-23 18:16 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: vmscan: only write dirty pages that the scanner has seen twice Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26  1:42   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-01-26  1:42     ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26 10:08   ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 10:08     ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 13:29   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26 13:29     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-23 18:16 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: vmscan: move dirty pages out of the way until they're flushed Johannes Weiner
2017-01-23 18:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26  1:47   ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26  1:47     ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-26 10:19   ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 10:19     ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 20:07     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26 20:07       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-01-26 20:58       ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 20:58         ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-26 13:52   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26 13:52     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26  5:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] mm: vmscan: fix kswapd writeback regression Hillf Danton
2017-01-26  5:44   ` Hillf Danton

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