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From: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
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	ceph-devel <ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	lustre-devel-aLEFhgZF4x6X6Mz3xDxJMA@public.gmane.org,
	V9FS Developers
	<v9fs-developer-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Chris Wilson
	<chris-Y6uKTt2uX1cEflXRtASbqLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] iov_iter: allow iov_iter_get_pages_alloc to allocate more pages per call
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:08:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170203190816.GK27291@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx=NPESJv9RjCNRKFH_rk9uVMov0UtFbpZH-xBsgK2h-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 10:29:23AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > get_user_pages() relies upon find_extend_vma() to reject kernel
> > addresses; the fast side of get_user_pages_fast() doesn't have anything
> > of that sort
> 
> It is *supposed* to have it.
> 
> See pte_allows_gup(), for example. In particular, it requires the
> _PAGE_USER bit in the PTE (and the devpte case should require
> _PAGE_BIT_DEVMAP).

On x86 it does.  I don't see anything equivalent in mm/gup.c one, and the
only kinda-sorta similar thing (access_ok() in __get_user_pages_fast()
there) is vulnerable to e.g. access via kernel_write().  The comment in
there
 * Before activating this code, please be aware that the following assumptions
 * are currently made:
 *
 *  *) HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE is enabled, and tlb_remove_table is used to free
 *      pages containing page tables.
 *
 *  *) ptes can be read atomically by the architecture.
 *
 *  *) access_ok is sufficient to validate userspace address ranges.
 *
 * The last two assumptions can be relaxed by the addition of helper functions.

doesn't look promising - access_ok() is never sufficient.  Something like
_PAGE_USER tests in x86 one solves that problem, but if anything similar
works for HAVE_GENERIC_RCU_GUP I don't see it.  Thus the question re
what am I missing here...
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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	ceph-devel <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org,
	V9FS Developers <v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] iov_iter: allow iov_iter_get_pages_alloc to allocate more pages per call
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:08:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170203190816.GK27291@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx=NPESJv9RjCNRKFH_rk9uVMov0UtFbpZH-xBsgK2h-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 10:29:23AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > get_user_pages() relies upon find_extend_vma() to reject kernel
> > addresses; the fast side of get_user_pages_fast() doesn't have anything
> > of that sort
> 
> It is *supposed* to have it.
> 
> See pte_allows_gup(), for example. In particular, it requires the
> _PAGE_USER bit in the PTE (and the devpte case should require
> _PAGE_BIT_DEVMAP).

On x86 it does.  I don't see anything equivalent in mm/gup.c one, and the
only kinda-sorta similar thing (access_ok() in __get_user_pages_fast()
there) is vulnerable to e.g. access via kernel_write().  The comment in
there
 * Before activating this code, please be aware that the following assumptions
 * are currently made:
 *
 *  *) HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE is enabled, and tlb_remove_table is used to free
 *      pages containing page tables.
 *
 *  *) ptes can be read atomically by the architecture.
 *
 *  *) access_ok is sufficient to validate userspace address ranges.
 *
 * The last two assumptions can be relaxed by the addition of helper functions.

doesn't look promising - access_ok() is never sufficient.  Something like
_PAGE_USER tests in x86 one solves that problem, but if anything similar
works for HAVE_GENERIC_RCU_GUP I don't see it.  Thus the question re
what am I missing here...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List
	<linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	ceph-devel <ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	lustre-devel-aLEFhgZF4x6X6Mz3xDxJMA@public.gmane.org,
	V9FS Developers
	<v9fs-developer-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Chris Wilson
	<chris-Y6uKTt2uX1cEflXRtASbqLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov"
	<kirill.shutemov-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: [lustre-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] iov_iter: allow iov_iter_get_pages_alloc to allocate more pages per call
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:08:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170203190816.GK27291@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx=NPESJv9RjCNRKFH_rk9uVMov0UtFbpZH-xBsgK2h-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 10:29:23AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > get_user_pages() relies upon find_extend_vma() to reject kernel
> > addresses; the fast side of get_user_pages_fast() doesn't have anything
> > of that sort
> 
> It is *supposed* to have it.
> 
> See pte_allows_gup(), for example. In particular, it requires the
> _PAGE_USER bit in the PTE (and the devpte case should require
> _PAGE_BIT_DEVMAP).

On x86 it does.  I don't see anything equivalent in mm/gup.c one, and the
only kinda-sorta similar thing (access_ok() in __get_user_pages_fast()
there) is vulnerable to e.g. access via kernel_write().  The comment in
there
 * Before activating this code, please be aware that the following assumptions
 * are currently made:
 *
 *  *) HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE is enabled, and tlb_remove_table is used to free
 *      pages containing page tables.
 *
 *  *) ptes can be read atomically by the architecture.
 *
 *  *) access_ok is sufficient to validate userspace address ranges.
 *
 * The last two assumptions can be relaxed by the addition of helper functions.

doesn't look promising - access_ok() is never sufficient.  Something like
_PAGE_USER tests in x86 one solves that problem, but if anything similar
works for HAVE_GENERIC_RCU_GUP I don't see it.  Thus the question re
what am I missing here...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-03 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-24 21:23 [PATCH] iov_iter: allow iov_iter_get_pages_alloc to allocate more pages per call Jeff Layton
2017-01-25 13:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Jeff Layton
2017-01-25 13:32   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Jeff Layton
2017-01-26 12:35     ` Jeff Layton
2017-01-27 13:24       ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Jeff Layton
2017-01-27 13:24         ` [PATCH v4 1/2] " Jeff Layton
2017-01-27 13:24         ` [PATCH v4 2/2] ceph: switch DIO code to use iov_iter_get_pages_alloc Jeff Layton
     [not found]           ` <20170127132451.6601-3-jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-30 15:40             ` Jeff Layton
2017-01-30 15:40               ` Jeff Layton
2017-01-25 13:32   ` [PATCH v3 " Jeff Layton
     [not found]   ` <20170125133205.21704-1-jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02  9:51     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] iov_iter: allow iov_iter_get_pages_alloc to allocate more pages per call Al Viro
2017-02-02  9:51       ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-02  9:51       ` Al Viro
     [not found]       ` <20170202095125.GF27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 10:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-02 10:56           ` [lustre-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-02 10:56           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <20170202105651.GA32111-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 11:16             ` Al Viro
2017-02-02 11:16               ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-02 11:16               ` Al Viro
     [not found]               ` <20170202111625.GG27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 13:00                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-02 13:00                   ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                   ` <1486040452.2812.6.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03  7:29                     ` Al Viro
2017-02-03  7:29                       ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-03  7:29                       ` Al Viro
     [not found]                       ` <20170203072952.GI27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03 18:29                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-03 18:29                           ` [lustre-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2017-02-03 18:29                           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                           ` <CA+55aFx=NPESJv9RjCNRKFH_rk9uVMov0UtFbpZH-xBsgK2h-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03 19:08                             ` Al Viro [this message]
2017-02-03 19:08                               ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-03 19:08                               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                               ` <20170203190816.GK27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03 19:28                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-03 19:28                                   ` [lustre-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2017-02-03 19:28                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-13  9:56                                   ` Steve Capper
     [not found]                                     ` <20170213095616.GA18053-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-13 21:40                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-13 21:40                                         ` [lustre-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2017-02-13 21:40                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-03  7:49                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-03  7:49                       ` [lustre-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-03  7:49                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                       ` <20170203074901.GA19808-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03  8:54                         ` Al Viro
2017-02-03  8:54                           ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-03  8:54                           ` Al Viro
     [not found]                           ` <20170203085415.GJ27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03 11:09                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-03 11:09                               ` [lustre-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-03 11:09                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-02 14:48         ` Jan Kara
2017-02-02 14:48           ` [lustre-devel] " Jan Kara
2017-02-02 14:48           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]           ` <20170202144817.GB15545-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 18:28             ` Al Viro
2017-02-02 18:28               ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-02 18:28               ` Al Viro
     [not found]               ` <20170202182802.GH27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03 14:47                 ` Jan Kara
2017-02-03 14:47                   ` [lustre-devel] " Jan Kara
2017-02-03 14:47                   ` Jan Kara
2017-02-04  3:08         ` Al Viro
2017-02-04  3:08           ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-04  3:08           ` Al Viro
     [not found]           ` <20170204030842.GL27291-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-04 19:26             ` Al Viro
2017-02-04 19:26               ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-04 19:26               ` Al Viro
     [not found]               ` <20170204192655.GA13195-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-04 22:12                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-04 22:12                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-04 22:11             ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-04 22:11               ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]               ` <CAJfpegtVb8PKNnKe5wGMd0u0WzgLpjpVtVpqDScbrBJShLAfGw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-05  1:51                 ` Al Viro
2017-02-05  1:51                   ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-05  1:51                   ` Al Viro
     [not found]                   ` <20170205015145.GB13195-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-05 20:15                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-05 20:15                       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                       ` <CAJfpegv=r9J8Mqax_ZAB2h5QbRgJMHwyVMENTpYZ8u3_pqNfJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-05 21:01                         ` Al Viro
2017-02-05 21:01                           ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-05 21:01                           ` Al Viro
     [not found]                           ` <20170205210151.GD13195-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-05 21:19                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-05 21:19                               ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                               ` <CAJfpeguzOgX9d+5XCNJcmXW5KkrGbnWB5aZSP1-0q3a6i6uk2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-05 22:04                                 ` Al Viro
2017-02-05 22:04                                   ` Al Viro
2017-02-05 22:04                                   ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-05 22:04                                   ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                   ` <20170205220445.GE13195-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-06  3:05                                     ` Al Viro
2017-02-06  3:05                                       ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-06  3:05                                       ` Al Viro
2017-02-06  9:08                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                         ` <CAJfpegv5ZGd2gzSbQvgk4uX5q06AijY+TNg2jdrPBSjbFoXMfg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-06  9:57                                           ` Al Viro
2017-02-06  9:57                                             ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-06  9:57                                             ` Al Viro
2017-02-06 14:18                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                               ` <CAJfpegv-ePQE9pNwZe6O+0LjJdq2aVk3bnhxeZ=y7P+iFq72XA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-07  7:19                                                 ` Al Viro
2017-02-07  7:19                                                   ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-07  7:19                                                   ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                                   ` <20170207071909.GI13195-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-07 11:35                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-07 11:35                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                                       ` <20170207113554.GA30656-6fGP+1Jn+PcQFMt52x3flrFA6kmya3R0B1poBFZFfSg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-08  5:54                                                         ` Al Viro
2017-02-08  5:54                                                           ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-08  5:54                                                           ` Al Viro
2017-02-08  9:53                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-06  8:37                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-02-05 20:56                     ` Al Viro
2017-02-05 20:56                       ` [lustre-devel] " Al Viro
2017-02-05 20:56                       ` Al Viro
2017-02-16 13:10       ` Jeff Layton

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