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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Trond.Myklebust@primarydata.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] Don't copy beyond the end of the file
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:09:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170306190936.GA2294@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <924FF7A2-27CD-4848-BD61-748758C2533F@netapp.com>

On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 11:27:23AM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> 
> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 9:10 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 05:46:05PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:32 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 04:08:19PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:47 PM, J. Bruce Fields
> >>>>> <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 08:22:21AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 11:01:05AM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> +	if (pos_in >= i_size_read(inode_in)) +		return
> >>>>>>> -EINVAL;
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> That's not how the syscall is supposed to work, we'd rather do
> >>>>>> a short read^^^^^copy.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> That's what I think too, but then is COPY(2) wrong?:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 	EINVAL Requested  range  extends beyond the end of the
> >>>>> 	source file; or the flags argument is not 0.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Also, copy_file_range can be implemented by ->clone_file_range,
> >>>>> where these kinds of checks make more sense, I think; e.g. from
> >>>>> btrfs:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 	ret = -EINVAL; if (off + len > src->i_size || off + len
> >>>>> 	< off) goto out_unlock;
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Well, so the caller just has to be prepared for either behavior,
> >>>>> I guess, but that may make it more complicated to use.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I’m still rather very confused again by the comment and what it
> >>>> is proposing.
> >>>> 
> >>>> There are two checks to consider for the validity of the
> >>>> arguments
> >>>> 
> >>>> 1. If the offset of the source file is beyond the end of the
> >>>> source file.  2. If the offset + len is beyond the end of the
> >>>> file.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I read that the man page is talking about #2.  This is actually
> >>>> what the NFSv4.2 spec required for the COPY too but we’ve been
> >>>> discussing that it should be a short read instead.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This patch address is to address case #1. As far as I can tell it
> >>>> applies to all file systems.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Are you suggesting that the checks for the validity of the
> >>>> arguments do not belong in VFS but instead should be in each of
> >>>> the underlying file systems?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Not all vfs_copy_file_range() are implemented via
> >>>> clone_file_range(). At least I hope that “inter” NFSv4.2 COPY
> >>>> will also use vfs_file_copy_range() and it would not be calling
> >>>> clone().
> >>> 
> >>> I think it'd be acceptable for copy_file_range() to just return 0
> >>> even in your case 1.  I believe that's what ordinary read and
> >>> pread does.
> >>> 
> >>> You probably can't perform it atomically with the copy, so it's
> >>> possible that the size will change right after you check it.
> >>> 
> >>> I don't see a benefit to the check.
> >> 
> > 
> >> In read() you don’t specify the offset from which to read. It is
> >> read from the current file descriptor offset. I don’t find the
> >> comparison equal. 
> >> 
> >> It’s it more fair to compare it to lseek() which does return EINVAL
> >> if you specify position beyond the end of the file. 
> > 
> > Or pread(), which takes an offset.
> > 
> > But read() can read at an offset at the end of file, or even past
> > that (if the file was truncated), and I believe it just returns 0 in
> > those cases.
> > 
> 
> I don’t see copy_file_range() specifying that 0 means end of the file.
> Are you arguing to add that meaning to the function call?

Yes.

> I guess in
> that case we’d need to take extra care to never return 0bytes to the
> client as a “partial” copy (say due to server rebooting).

Right.

> Unless changed, NFS4.2 mandates the two checks that I’ve specified. I
> can add the checks in the NFS implementation itself. However, we
> thought at least this check belonged in the VFS layer. I’m really not
> super attached to getting into VFS. Actually the 2nd check is
> something that copy_file_range() man pages say should return EINVAL
> but the VFS code doesn’t enforce it. 

Please leave those checks out.  Let's try to fix the spec.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-06 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02 16:01 [RFC v1 00/19] NFS support for inter and async COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-02 16:34     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 20:47     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-03 21:08       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 21:32         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]           ` <B3F80DA0-B4F8-4628-88C5-E5C047620F17@netapp.com>
2017-03-04  2:10             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 16:27               ` [RFC v1 01/19] " Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-06 19:09                 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <924FF7A2-27CD-4848-BD61-748758C2533F-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 19:23                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 19:23                     ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                     ` <20170306192301.GB2294-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 14:18                       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18                         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18                         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 23:40       ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:05         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 17:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:32             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 19:53               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:00                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:00                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:18                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:18                   ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:18                     ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:32                     ` bfields
2017-03-08 20:49                       ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:49                         ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-09 15:29                         ` bfields
2017-03-09 15:35                           ` hch
2017-03-09 16:16                             ` bfields
2017-03-09 16:17                               ` hch
2017-03-09 17:28                                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:28                                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 18:40                                   ` bfields
2017-03-09 21:55                                   ` hch
2017-03-09 17:35                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:35                                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 02/19] VFS permit cross device vfs_copy_file_range Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 03/19] VFS don't try clone if superblocks are different Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 04/19] NFS inter ssc open Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 05/19] NFS add COPY_NOTIFY operation Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 06/19] NFS add ca_source_server<> to COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 07/19] NFS CB_OFFLOAD xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 08/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 09/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS op Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 10/19] NFS OFFLOAD_CANCEL xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 11/19] NFS COPY xdr handle async reply Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 12/19] NFS add support for asynchronous COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 13/19] NFS handle COPY reply CB_OFFLOAD call race Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 14/19] NFS send OFFLOAD_CANCEL when COPY killed Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 15/19] NFS make COPY synchronous xdr configurable Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 16/19] NFS handle COPY ERR_OFFLOAD_NO_REQS Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 17/19] NFS skip recovery of copy open on dest server Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 18/19] NFS recover from destination server reboot for copies Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 19/19] NFS if we got partial copy ignore errors Olga Kornievskaia

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