From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Trond.Myklebust@primarydata.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:53:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170308195327.GA3492@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7FDA8E80-3C62-48BB-9E2B-195B4BA340C0@netapp.com>
On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 12:32:12PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
>
> > On Mar 8, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 12:05:21PM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >> Since copy isn't atomic that check is never going to be reliable.
> >
> > That's true for everything that COPY does. By that logic we should
> > not implement it at all (a logic that I'd fully support)
>
> If you were to only keep CLONE then you’d lose a huge performance gain
> you get from server-to-server COPY.
Yes. Also, I think copy-like copy implementations have reasonable
semantics that are basically the same as read:
- copy can return successfully with less copied than requested.
- it's fine for the copied range to start and/or end past end of
file, it'll just return a short read.
- A copy of more than 0 bytes returning 0 means you're at end of
file.
The particular problem here is that that doesn't fit how clone works at
all.
It feels like what happened is that copy_file_range() was made mainly
for the clone case, with the idea that copy might be reluctantly
accepted as a second-class implementation.
But the performance gain of copy offload is too big to just ignore, and
in fact it's what copy_file_range does on every filesystem but btrfs and
ocfs2 (and maybe cifs?), so I don't think we can just ignore it.
If we had separate copy_file_range and clone_file_range, I *think* it
could all be made sensible. Am I missing something?
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-08 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-02 16:01 [RFC v1 00/19] NFS support for inter and async COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-02 16:34 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 20:47 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-03 21:08 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 21:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <B3F80DA0-B4F8-4628-88C5-E5C047620F17@netapp.com>
2017-03-04 2:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 16:27 ` [RFC v1 01/19] " Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-06 19:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <924FF7A2-27CD-4848-BD61-748758C2533F-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 19:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 19:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20170306192301.GB2294-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 14:18 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 23:40 ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 17:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:32 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 19:53 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2017-03-08 20:00 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:00 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:32 ` bfields
2017-03-08 20:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-09 15:29 ` bfields
2017-03-09 15:35 ` hch
2017-03-09 16:16 ` bfields
2017-03-09 16:17 ` hch
2017-03-09 17:28 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:28 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 18:40 ` bfields
2017-03-09 21:55 ` hch
2017-03-09 17:35 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:35 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 02/19] VFS permit cross device vfs_copy_file_range Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 03/19] VFS don't try clone if superblocks are different Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 04/19] NFS inter ssc open Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 05/19] NFS add COPY_NOTIFY operation Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 06/19] NFS add ca_source_server<> to COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 07/19] NFS CB_OFFLOAD xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 08/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 09/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS op Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 10/19] NFS OFFLOAD_CANCEL xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 11/19] NFS COPY xdr handle async reply Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 12/19] NFS add support for asynchronous COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 13/19] NFS handle COPY reply CB_OFFLOAD call race Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 14/19] NFS send OFFLOAD_CANCEL when COPY killed Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 15/19] NFS make COPY synchronous xdr configurable Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 16/19] NFS handle COPY ERR_OFFLOAD_NO_REQS Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 17/19] NFS skip recovery of copy open on dest server Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 18/19] NFS recover from destination server reboot for copies Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 19/19] NFS if we got partial copy ignore errors Olga Kornievskaia
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