* conntrackd: synchronization failures
@ 2017-01-11 20:06 Jiri Kosina
2017-01-11 20:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-01-11 21:57 ` Jiri Kosina
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From: Jiri Kosina @ 2017-01-11 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netfilter; +Cc: info
Hi,
I've tried to use conntrackd to provide full connection tracking for
firewalling and NAT in an asymmetric routing situation, but unfortunately
the synchronization is failing quite often.
The setup is rather simple:
/ Internet \
/ \
RS1 <conntrackd> RS2
\ /
\ LAN /
RS1 and RS2 have the same netfilter rules applied. RS1 is mostly used for
sending outgoing traffic from LAN to Internet, while RS2 is mostly used
for packets coming from Internet to LAN (LAN is mostly "consumer", so the
Internet->LAN traffic is of a much higher volume (~1Gbps spikes) compared
to ~200Mbps of outgoing traffic).
RS1 and RS2 are connected via direct link (~0.06ms) which is reserved for
conntrackd.
conntrackd.conf can be found below.
The issues:
- minor: every few minutes, error message of either of the two forms below
appears in the log
(pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: File exists
tcp 6 120 FIN_WAIT src=10.33.12.15 dst=116.31.116.30 sport=22 dport=44232 [ASSURED]
(pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: Device or resource busy
tcp 6 300 CLOSE src=10.33.40.102 dst=216.58.201.110 sport=53660 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
etc. (states, IPs, ports differ).
- major: roughly once in a few hours the frequency of these messages on
one of the router (usually RS2) starts spitting the 'File exists' messages
much more frequently, and the traffic on the dedicated link
dramatically decreases for some reason (IOW conntrackds stop syncing as
they were before, while the actual 'data' traffic between LAN and
Internet is still the same). This is how the traffic on dedicated link
looks like when the issue appears:
http://www.jikos.cz/jikos/junk/conntrackd.jpg
the down-spike is where connections between LAN and Internet start to
fail (no ACKs coming back from SYNs, etc, as RS2 is dropping everything
due to conntrack being out of sync), and the up-spike, bringing things
back to normal, is where either conntrackd is restarted, or the incoming
traffic is cut (by shutting BGP sessions down).
I don't really have a good trial-test environment, as this is happening on
a production network that is hard to emulate.
Any ideas what might be causing this, or any hints to to efficiently (and
non-disruptively) debug the issue?
Thanks,
--
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
SUSE Labs
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* Re: conntrackd: synchronization failures
2017-01-11 20:06 conntrackd: synchronization failures Jiri Kosina
@ 2017-01-11 20:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-01-11 21:57 ` Jiri Kosina
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Kosina @ 2017-01-11 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netfilter; +Cc: info
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> conntrackd.conf can be found below.
.. and now actually included, sorry.
BTW NetlinkOverrunResync and NetlinkEventsReliable don't have any
significant impact on the issue.
=== cut here ===
Sync {
Mode FTFW {
DisableExternalCache On
}
UDP {
IPv4_address 10.33.28.13
IPv4_Destination_Address 10.33.28.14
Port 3780
Interface eth2
}
}
General {
Nice -20
HashSize 32768
HashLimit 1024000
LogFile on
LockFile /var/lock/conntrack.lock
UNIX {
Path /var/run/conntrackd.ctl
Backlog 20
}
NetlinkBufferSize 2097152
NetlinkBufferSizeMaxGrowth 33554432
NetlinkOverrunResync Off
NetlinkEventsReliable On
Filter From Userspace {
Protocol Accept {
TCP
SCTP
DCCP
UDP
ICMP
IPv6-ICMP
}
Address Ignore {
IPv4_address 127.0.0.1 # loopback
}
}
=== cut here ===
--
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
SUSE Labs
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* Re: conntrackd: synchronization failures
2017-01-11 20:06 conntrackd: synchronization failures Jiri Kosina
2017-01-11 20:12 ` Jiri Kosina
@ 2017-01-11 21:57 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-01-12 7:58 ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Kosina @ 2017-01-11 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netfilter; +Cc: info
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> (pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: File exists
Sometimes this EEXIST is reported in inject-add1
> tcp 6 120 FIN_WAIT src=10.33.12.15 dst=116.31.116.30 sport=22 dport=44232 [ASSURED]
> (pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: Device or resource busy
This EBUSY seems to be always inject-add2 phase though.
I've tried both conntrackd 1.0.1 and 1.4.3, both compiled against
libnfnetlink-1.0.1; the behavior has been exactly the same.
The hosts are running rather different kernels (3.10 from RHEL 7 (RS2) and
4.6.1-rt2 (RS1) respectively).
--
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
SUSE Labs
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* Re: conntrackd: synchronization failures
2017-01-11 21:57 ` Jiri Kosina
@ 2017-01-12 7:58 ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-01-13 15:01 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-03-10 11:26 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez @ 2017-01-12 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jiri Kosina; +Cc: Netfilter Users Mailing list, info
On 11 January 2017 at 22:57, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>
>> (pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: File exists
>
> Sometimes this EEXIST is reported in inject-add1
>
>> tcp 6 120 FIN_WAIT src=10.33.12.15 dst=116.31.116.30 sport=22 dport=44232 [ASSURED]
>> (pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: Device or resource busy
>
> This EBUSY seems to be always inject-add2 phase though.
>
> I've tried both conntrackd 1.0.1 and 1.4.3, both compiled against
> libnfnetlink-1.0.1; the behavior has been exactly the same.
>
> The hosts are running rather different kernels (3.10 from RHEL 7 (RS2) and
> 4.6.1-rt2 (RS1) respectively).
I can see them too, in NATed connections most of the time:
Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 TIME_WAIT
src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 10 CLOSE
src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-add2: File exists
Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 SYN_SENT
src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 60 SYN_RECV
src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 432000
ESTABLISHED src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
[ASSURED]
this is linux 4.8.11 and conntrack-tools commit
5a51b045b369e3f8aa83cd32c14149158bd86546
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* Re: conntrackd: synchronization failures
2017-01-12 7:58 ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
@ 2017-01-13 15:01 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-01-16 10:16 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2017-03-10 11:26 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Kosina @ 2017-01-13 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez; +Cc: Netfilter Users Mailing list, info
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> I can see them too, in NATed connections most of the time:
>
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 TIME_WAIT
> src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 10 CLOSE
> src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-add2: File exists
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 SYN_SENT
> src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 60 SYN_RECV
> src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 432000
> ESTABLISHED src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
> [ASSURED]
Do you also experience (either from inject-upd2 or inject-add2 phase)
EBUSY ones?
I'm seeing quite a lot of entries such as
(pid=9769) [ERROR] inject-add2: Device or resource busy
tcp 6 300 CLOSE src=10.33.37.4 dst=77.75.77.94 sport=42653 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
I'm still trying to understand from the source what consequences this
might have; any hint would be appreciated.
Thanks,
--
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
SUSE Labs
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* Re: conntrackd: synchronization failures
2017-01-13 15:01 ` Jiri Kosina
@ 2017-01-16 10:16 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Neira Ayuso @ 2017-01-16 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jiri Kosina; +Cc: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez, Netfilter Users Mailing list, info
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 04:01:43PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>
> > I can see them too, in NATed connections most of the time:
> >
> > Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> > Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 TIME_WAIT
> > src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
> > Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> > Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 10 CLOSE
> > src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
> > Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-add2: File exists
> > Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 SYN_SENT
> > src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
> > Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> > Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 60 SYN_RECV
> > src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
> > Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> > Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 432000
> > ESTABLISHED src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
> > [ASSURED]
>
> Do you also experience (either from inject-upd2 or inject-add2 phase)
> EBUSY ones?
>
> I'm seeing quite a lot of entries such as
>
> (pid=9769) [ERROR] inject-add2: Device or resource busy
> tcp 6 300 CLOSE src=10.33.37.4 dst=77.75.77.94 sport=42653 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
>
> I'm still trying to understand from the source what consequences this
> might have; any hint would be appreciated.
Some conntrack attributes can also be set up from NEW flows.
Most likely this entry already exists in the kernel, and conntrackd is
trying to update it.
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* Re: conntrackd: synchronization failures
2017-01-12 7:58 ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2017-01-13 15:01 ` Jiri Kosina
@ 2017-03-10 11:26 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Neira Ayuso @ 2017-03-10 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez; +Cc: Jiri Kosina, Netfilter Users Mailing list, info
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 08:58:32AM +0100, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> On 11 January 2017 at 22:57, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> >
> >> (pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: File exists
> >
> > Sometimes this EEXIST is reported in inject-add1
> >
> >> tcp 6 120 FIN_WAIT src=10.33.12.15 dst=116.31.116.30 sport=22 dport=44232 [ASSURED]
> >> (pid=11083) [ERROR] inject-add2: Device or resource busy
> >
> > This EBUSY seems to be always inject-add2 phase though.
> >
> > I've tried both conntrackd 1.0.1 and 1.4.3, both compiled against
> > libnfnetlink-1.0.1; the behavior has been exactly the same.
> >
> > The hosts are running rather different kernels (3.10 from RHEL 7 (RS2) and
> > 4.6.1-rt2 (RS1) respectively).
>
> I can see them too, in NATed connections most of the time:
>
>
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 TIME_WAIT
> src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:54:09 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 10 CLOSE
> src=192.168.5.181 dst=31.13.65.1 sport=57419 dport=443 [ASSURED]
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-add2: File exists
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 120 SYN_SENT
> src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443 [UNREPLIED]
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 60 SYN_RECV
> src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: inject-upd1: File exists
> Jan 12 08:55:15 cf03 conntrack-tools[32717]: tcp 6 432000
> ESTABLISHED src=192.168.5.219 dst=216.58.211.202 sport=45121 dport=443
> [ASSURED]
>
> this is linux 4.8.11 and conntrack-tools commit
> 5a51b045b369e3f8aa83cd32c14149158bd86546
Sorry I'm jumping late on this. Burden here has kept me away from
conntrackd issues.
Asymmetric packet route setups are a bit of hell on wheels since it is
prone to races. I said this many times before, and I know many people
ask for this setup. Flow based distribution fits much better with
stateful firewalls to achieve active-active setups. Main problem with
this scenario is that the sync message may lose race as it may get to
the other firewall later than reply packets, moreover, we cannot do
any smart trick to reduce the number of sync messages since every new
event need to be propagated to the other firewall.
What do
cat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_loose
cat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_be_liberal
say there? Here in my testbed this says:
cat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_loose
0
cat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_be_liberal
1
So TCP window tracking is disabled and we don't pick up connection
from the middle. If we allow connection pick from the middle, then
state synchronization is not useful, actually conntrackd may get there
late and try to add an entry (hence the EEXIST). The EBUSY case is
just like EEXIST, but it reports that that you're trying to update a
flow entry with stale information, so also likely lost race.
Are you also dropping invalid packets via?
-A FORWARD -m state --state INVALID -j DROP
This just ensures that packets are dropped if flow state is not in
sync, so you force retransmissions if conntrackd loses race.
Can you also monitor netlink overrun via conntrackd -s? netlink
overrun is bad since this means the sync daemon cannot keep up with
the sync message pace, ie. we're losing sync events. That's also not
good.
Bottom line is: If you need an asymmetric packet route setup, better
consider running those routers as stateless firewalls, or do the
stateful firewalling before those edge routers, at a point where all
traffic (in both directions) is seen by the stateful firewall.
Stateful firewalls need to see traffic going in both directions, yes,
you can use conntrackd to workaround the fact that we will not see all
packets, but still prone to races.
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