From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
x86@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
Dann Frazier <dann.frazier@canonical.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] x86/mm: Switch to generic get_user_page_fast() implementation
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:11:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170316191102.GM3637@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170316172046.sl7j5elg77yjevau@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:20:46PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:26:55PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > +config HAVE_GENERIC_RCU_GUP
> > + def_bool y
> > +
>
> Nothing immediately jumped out to me; except that this option might be
> misnamed.
>
> AFAICT that code does not in fact rely on HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE; it will
> happily work with the (x86) broadcast IPI invalidate model, as you show
> here.
>
> Architectures that do not do that obviously need HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE,
> but that is not the point I feel.
>
> Also, this code hard relies on IRQ-disable delaying grace periods, which
> is mostly true I think, but has always been something Paul didn't really
> want to commit too firmly to.
That is quite true!
The only case where IRQ-disable is guaranteed to delay grace periods is
when you are using RCU-sched, in other words synchronize_sched() and
call_rcu_sched(). And even then, the CPU cannot be in the idle loop,
cannot be offline, and cannot be a nohz_full CPU on its way to/from
userspace execution.
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
x86@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
Dann Frazier <dann.frazier@canonical.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] x86/mm: Switch to generic get_user_page_fast() implementation
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:11:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170316191102.GM3637@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20170316191102.mI-zo0G4-2_Nt9DdewSLwBFIxvg48rDlSHn5XOV1Whc@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170316172046.sl7j5elg77yjevau@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:20:46PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:26:55PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > +config HAVE_GENERIC_RCU_GUP
> > + def_bool y
> > +
>
> Nothing immediately jumped out to me; except that this option might be
> misnamed.
>
> AFAICT that code does not in fact rely on HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE; it will
> happily work with the (x86) broadcast IPI invalidate model, as you show
> here.
>
> Architectures that do not do that obviously need HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE,
> but that is not the point I feel.
>
> Also, this code hard relies on IRQ-disable delaying grace periods, which
> is mostly true I think, but has always been something Paul didn't really
> want to commit too firmly to.
That is quite true!
The only case where IRQ-disable is guaranteed to delay grace periods is
when you are using RCU-sched, in other words synchronize_sched() and
call_rcu_sched(). And even then, the CPU cannot be in the idle loop,
cannot be offline, and cannot be a nohz_full CPU on its way to/from
userspace execution.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-16 19:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-16 15:26 [PATCH 0/7] Switch x86 to generic get_user_pages_fast() implementation Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm: Drop arch_pte_access_permitted() mmu hook Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:49 ` [tip:x86/mm] mm/gup: Drop the arch_pte_access_permitted() MMU callback tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/gup: Move permission checks into helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:50 ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/gup: Move page table entry dereference into helper Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:50 ` [tip:x86/mm] mm/gup: Move page table entry dereference into helper function tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm/gup: Make pages referenced during generic get_user_pages_fast() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:51 ` [tip:x86/mm] mm/gup: Mark all pages PageReferenced in " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm/gup: Implement dev_pagemap logic " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-17 17:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-17 17:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:51 ` [tip:x86/mm] mm/gup: Implement the dev_pagemap() logic in the generic get_user_pages_fast() function tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm/gup: Provide hook to check if __GUP_fast() is allowed for the range Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:52 ` [tip:x86/mm] mm/gup: Provide callback " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/mm: Switch to generic get_user_page_fast() implementation Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 15:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 17:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-16 17:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-16 19:11 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-03-16 19:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-16 21:39 ` [PATCHv2 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 21:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-17 17:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-17 17:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-18 9:52 ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/mm/gup: Switch GUP to the " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-03-16 18:03 ` [PATCH 0/7] Switch x86 to generic get_user_pages_fast() implementation Linus Torvalds
2017-03-16 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-03-17 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-17 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-17 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
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