From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Attila Fazekas <afazekas@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: scope of cred_guard_mutex.
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 18:08:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170405160845.GA14536@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fuhpjeco.fsf_-_@xmission.com>
On 04/03, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> You have asked why I have problems with your patch and so I am going to
> try to explain. Partly I want to see a clean set of patches that we
> can merge into Linus's tree before we make any compromises. Because the
> work preparing a clean patchset may inform us of something better. Plus
> we need to make something clean and long term maintainable in any event.
>
> Partly I object because your understanding and my understanding of
> cred_guard_mutex are very different.
And I think there is another problem, your understanding and my understanding
of "clean" differ too much and it seems that we can not convince each other ;)
The last series looks buggy (I'll send more emails later today), but the
main problem is that - in my opinion! - your approach is "obviously wrong
and much less clean". But yes, yes, I understand that this is my opinion,
and I can be wrong.
Eric, I think we need more CC's. Linus, probably security list, the more
the better.
I am going to resend my series with more CC's, then you can nack it and
explain what you think we should do. Perhaps someone else will suggest
a better solution, or at least review the patches. OK?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-05 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-13 14:14 [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 14:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 16:12 ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-13 16:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 16:39 ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-13 17:27 ` Mika Penttilä
2017-02-13 18:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 18:04 ` [PATCH V2 " Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-16 11:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-20 15:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-20 15:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-20 22:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-21 17:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-21 20:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-22 17:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-17 4:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-20 15:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 14:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-24 16:03 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-03 1:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170303173326.GA17899-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 18:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87d1dyw5iw.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 20:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87tw7aunuh.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 20:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-04 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-30 8:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <8760ir192p.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01 5:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01 5:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <878tnkpv8h.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01 5:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01 5:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01 5:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01 5:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87vaqooggs.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 15:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170402153517.GA12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 18:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 18:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <877f32k5ew.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 21:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:50 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <874ly6a0h1.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 22:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/5] ptrace: Don't wait in PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT for exec or coredump Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/5] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/5] clone: Disallown CLONE_THREAD with a shared sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87k2728lrp.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 16:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 17:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:53 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 4/5] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:57 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] signal: Don't allow accessing signal_struct by old threads after exec Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zify76z9.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170405161812.GD14536-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 18:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zifu90to.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-06 15:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 16:15 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170402161518.GC12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 21:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 21:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87inmmbjsq.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170403183728.GB31390-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 22:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49 ` scope of cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:08 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2017-04-05 16:11 ` Kees Cook
2017-04-05 17:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <87fuhpjeco.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-06 15:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20170406155540.GC7444-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07 22:07 ` Kees Cook
2017-04-07 22:07 ` Kees Cook
2017-09-04 3:19 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Robert O'Callahan
2017-09-04 3:19 ` Robert O'Callahan
[not found] ` <87tw7axlr0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-04 16:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-04 16:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
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