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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <asarai-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Attila Fazekas <afazekas-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jann Horn <jann-XZ1E9jl8jIdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Ulrich Obergfell
	<uobergfe-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] signal: Don't allow accessing signal_struct by old threads after exec
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 18:18:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170405161812.GD14536@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zify76z9.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On 04/02, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Add exec_id to signal_struct and compare it at a few choice moments.

I really dislike this change no matter what, sorry.

Firstly, task_struct->*_exec_id should simply die (I already have the
patch), or at least they should be moved into signal_struct simply
because this is per-process thing.

> --- a/kernel/signal.c
> +++ b/kernel/signal.c
> @@ -995,6 +995,10 @@ static int __send_signal(int sig, struct siginfo *info, struct task_struct *t,
>  			from_ancestor_ns || (info == SEND_SIG_FORCED)))
>  		goto ret;
>
> +	/* Don't allow thread group signals after exec */
> +	if (group && (t->signal->exec_id != t->self_exec_id))
> +		goto ret;

Hmm. Either we do not need this exec_id check at all, or we should not
take "group" into account; a fatal signal (say SIGKILL) will kill the
whole thread-group.

> @@ -1247,7 +1251,8 @@ struct sighand_struct *__lock_task_sighand(struct task_struct *tsk,
>  		 * must see ->sighand == NULL.
>  		 */
>  		spin_lock(&sighand->siglock);
> -		if (likely(sighand == tsk->sighand)) {
> +		if (likely((sighand == tsk->sighand) &&
> +			   (tsk->self_exec_id == tsk->signal->exec_id))) {

Oh, this doesn't look good to me. Yes, with your approach we probably need
this to, say, ensure that posix-cpu-timer can't kill the process after exec,
but I'd rather add the exit_state check into run_posix_timers().

But OK, suppose that we fix the problems with signal-after-exec.

====================================================================
Now lets fix another problem. A mt exec suceeds and apllication does
sys_seccomp(SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC) which fails because it finds
another (zombie) SECCOMP_MODE_FILTER thread.

And after we fix this problem, what else we will need to fix?


I really think that - whatever we do - there should be no other threads
after exec, even zombies.

Oleg.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Attila Fazekas <afazekas@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] signal: Don't allow accessing signal_struct by old threads after exec
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 18:18:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170405161812.GD14536@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zify76z9.fsf_-_@xmission.com>

On 04/02, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Add exec_id to signal_struct and compare it at a few choice moments.

I really dislike this change no matter what, sorry.

Firstly, task_struct->*_exec_id should simply die (I already have the
patch), or at least they should be moved into signal_struct simply
because this is per-process thing.

> --- a/kernel/signal.c
> +++ b/kernel/signal.c
> @@ -995,6 +995,10 @@ static int __send_signal(int sig, struct siginfo *info, struct task_struct *t,
>  			from_ancestor_ns || (info == SEND_SIG_FORCED)))
>  		goto ret;
>
> +	/* Don't allow thread group signals after exec */
> +	if (group && (t->signal->exec_id != t->self_exec_id))
> +		goto ret;

Hmm. Either we do not need this exec_id check at all, or we should not
take "group" into account; a fatal signal (say SIGKILL) will kill the
whole thread-group.

> @@ -1247,7 +1251,8 @@ struct sighand_struct *__lock_task_sighand(struct task_struct *tsk,
>  		 * must see ->sighand == NULL.
>  		 */
>  		spin_lock(&sighand->siglock);
> -		if (likely(sighand == tsk->sighand)) {
> +		if (likely((sighand == tsk->sighand) &&
> +			   (tsk->self_exec_id == tsk->signal->exec_id))) {

Oh, this doesn't look good to me. Yes, with your approach we probably need
this to, say, ensure that posix-cpu-timer can't kill the process after exec,
but I'd rather add the exit_state check into run_posix_timers().

But OK, suppose that we fix the problems with signal-after-exec.

====================================================================
Now lets fix another problem. A mt exec suceeds and apllication does
sys_seccomp(SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC) which fails because it finds
another (zombie) SECCOMP_MODE_FILTER thread.

And after we fix this problem, what else we will need to fix?


I really think that - whatever we do - there should be no other threads
after exec, even zombies.

Oleg.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-05 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-13 14:14 [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 14:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 16:12   ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-13 16:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 16:39   ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-13 17:27   ` Mika Penttilä
2017-02-13 18:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 18:04   ` [PATCH V2 " Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-16 11:42     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-20 15:22       ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-20 15:36         ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-20 22:30         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-21 17:53           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-21 20:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-22 17:41               ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-17  4:42     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-20 15:50       ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-13 14:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-24 16:03 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-03  1:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 17:33     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]       ` <20170303173326.GA17899-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 18:23         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:23           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:59           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:59             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87d1dyw5iw.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 20:06                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87tw7aunuh.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:11                   ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 20:11                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-04 17:03                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-30  8:07                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <8760ir192p.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01  5:11                           ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01  5:11                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <878tnkpv8h.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01  5:14                               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01  5:14                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01  5:16                               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01  5:16                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87vaqooggs.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 15:35                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:35                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20170402153517.GA12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 18:53                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 18:53                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <877f32k5ew.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:12                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 18:12                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 21:04                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:44                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:38                               ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:38                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:50                               ` [RFC][PATCH v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:50                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <874ly6a0h1.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 22:51                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/5] ptrace: Don't wait in PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT for exec or coredump Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:51                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:19                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:51                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/5] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:51                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:52                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/5] clone: Disallown CLONE_THREAD with a shared sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:52                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87k2728lrp.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:24                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 16:24                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 17:34                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:11                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:53                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 4/5] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:53                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:15                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:57                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] signal: Don't allow accessing signal_struct by old threads after exec Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:57                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87zify76z9.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:18                                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2017-04-05 16:18                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                         ` <20170405161812.GD14536-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 18:16                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:16                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                             ` <87zifu90to.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:48                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-06 15:48                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 16:15                           ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 16:15                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20170402161518.GC12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 21:07                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 21:07                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87inmmbjsq.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:37                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 18:37                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20170403183728.GB31390-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 22:49                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49                                       ` scope of cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:08                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 16:11                                           ` Kees Cook
2017-04-05 17:53                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:15                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                         ` <87fuhpjeco.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:55                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-06 15:55                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                             ` <20170406155540.GC7444-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07 22:07                                               ` Kees Cook
2017-04-07 22:07                                                 ` Kees Cook
2017-09-04  3:19                                   ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Robert O'Callahan
2017-09-04  3:19                                     ` Robert O'Callahan
     [not found]           ` <87tw7axlr0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-04 16:54             ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-04 16:54               ` Oleg Nesterov

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