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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com>
Cc: jmorris@namei.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 3/4] restrict unprivileged TIOCSTI tty ioctl
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:53:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170417065345.GC21022@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170417060706.28674-4-matt@nmatt.com>

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 02:07:05AM -0400, Matt Brown wrote:
> this patch depends on patch 1 and 2
> 
> enforces restrictions on unprivileged users injecting commands
> into other processes in the same tty session using the TIOCSTI ioctl
> 
> Signed-off-by: Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com>
> ---
>  drivers/tty/tty_io.c | 4 ++++
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/tty_io.c b/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> index e6d1a65..31894e8 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> +++ b/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> @@ -2296,11 +2296,15 @@ static int tty_fasync(int fd, struct file *filp, int on)
>   *	FIXME: may race normal receive processing
>   */
>  
> +int tiocsti_restrict = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SECURITY_TIOCSTI_RESTRICT);
> +
>  static int tiocsti(struct tty_struct *tty, char __user *p)
>  {
>  	char ch, mbz = 0;
>  	struct tty_ldisc *ld;
>  
> +	if (tiocsti_restrict && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> +		return -EPERM;

So, what type of "normal" userspace operations did you just break here?
What type of "not normal" did you break/change?

Why tie this to CAP_SYS_ADMIN as well?  That wasn't listed in your
Kconfig help text.  This seems like an additional capabilities
dependancy that odds are, most people do not want...

>  	if ((current->signal->tty != tty) && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
>  		return -EPERM;

And finally, why doesn't this original check handle what you want to do
already?

I don't understand your "threat model" you wish to address by this
change series, please be a lot more explicit in your patch changelog
descriptions.

thanks,

greg k-h

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org (Greg KH)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/4] restrict unprivileged TIOCSTI tty ioctl
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:53:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170417065345.GC21022@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170417060706.28674-4-matt@nmatt.com>

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 02:07:05AM -0400, Matt Brown wrote:
> this patch depends on patch 1 and 2
> 
> enforces restrictions on unprivileged users injecting commands
> into other processes in the same tty session using the TIOCSTI ioctl
> 
> Signed-off-by: Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com>
> ---
>  drivers/tty/tty_io.c | 4 ++++
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/tty_io.c b/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> index e6d1a65..31894e8 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> +++ b/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> @@ -2296,11 +2296,15 @@ static int tty_fasync(int fd, struct file *filp, int on)
>   *	FIXME: may race normal receive processing
>   */
>  
> +int tiocsti_restrict = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SECURITY_TIOCSTI_RESTRICT);
> +
>  static int tiocsti(struct tty_struct *tty, char __user *p)
>  {
>  	char ch, mbz = 0;
>  	struct tty_ldisc *ld;
>  
> +	if (tiocsti_restrict && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> +		return -EPERM;

So, what type of "normal" userspace operations did you just break here?
What type of "not normal" did you break/change?

Why tie this to CAP_SYS_ADMIN as well?  That wasn't listed in your
Kconfig help text.  This seems like an additional capabilities
dependancy that odds are, most people do not want...

>  	if ((current->signal->tty != tty) && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
>  		return -EPERM;

And finally, why doesn't this original check handle what you want to do
already?

I don't understand your "threat model" you wish to address by this
change series, please be a lot more explicit in your patch changelog
descriptions.

thanks,

greg k-h
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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com>
Cc: jmorris@namei.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] restrict unprivileged TIOCSTI tty ioctl
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:53:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170417065345.GC21022@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170417060706.28674-4-matt@nmatt.com>

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 02:07:05AM -0400, Matt Brown wrote:
> this patch depends on patch 1 and 2
> 
> enforces restrictions on unprivileged users injecting commands
> into other processes in the same tty session using the TIOCSTI ioctl
> 
> Signed-off-by: Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com>
> ---
>  drivers/tty/tty_io.c | 4 ++++
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/tty_io.c b/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> index e6d1a65..31894e8 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> +++ b/drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> @@ -2296,11 +2296,15 @@ static int tty_fasync(int fd, struct file *filp, int on)
>   *	FIXME: may race normal receive processing
>   */
>  
> +int tiocsti_restrict = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SECURITY_TIOCSTI_RESTRICT);
> +
>  static int tiocsti(struct tty_struct *tty, char __user *p)
>  {
>  	char ch, mbz = 0;
>  	struct tty_ldisc *ld;
>  
> +	if (tiocsti_restrict && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> +		return -EPERM;

So, what type of "normal" userspace operations did you just break here?
What type of "not normal" did you break/change?

Why tie this to CAP_SYS_ADMIN as well?  That wasn't listed in your
Kconfig help text.  This seems like an additional capabilities
dependancy that odds are, most people do not want...

>  	if ((current->signal->tty != tty) && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
>  		return -EPERM;

And finally, why doesn't this original check handle what you want to do
already?

I don't understand your "threat model" you wish to address by this
change series, please be a lot more explicit in your patch changelog
descriptions.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-17  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-17  6:07 [kernel-hardening] Patchset to Restrict Unprivileged TIOCSTI TTY Command Injection Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07 ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07 ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 1/4] added SECURITY_TIOCSTI_RESTRICT kernel config Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:50   ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2017-04-17  6:50     ` Greg KH
2017-04-17  6:50     ` Greg KH
2017-04-18  4:29     ` [kernel-hardening] " Matt Brown
2017-04-18  4:29       ` Matt Brown
2017-04-18  4:29       ` Matt Brown
2017-04-18 13:40     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alan Cox
2017-04-18 13:40       ` Alan Cox
2017-04-18 13:40       ` Alan Cox
2017-04-18 15:49       ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2017-04-18 15:49         ` Kees Cook
2017-04-17  6:07 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 2/4] add tiocsti_restrict variable Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:51   ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2017-04-17  6:51     ` Greg KH
2017-04-17  6:51     ` Greg KH
2017-04-17  6:07 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 3/4] restrict unprivileged TIOCSTI tty ioctl Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:53   ` Greg KH [this message]
2017-04-17  6:53     ` Greg KH
2017-04-17  6:53     ` Greg KH
2017-04-17 14:18     ` [kernel-hardening] " Jann Horn
2017-04-17 14:18       ` Jann Horn
2017-04-17 16:18       ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17 16:18         ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 4/4] added kernel.tiocsti_restrict sysctl Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown
2017-04-17  6:07   ` Matt Brown

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