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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Leizhen (ThunderTown)"
	<thunder.leizhen-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Hanjun Guo <guohanjun-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Xinwei Hu <huxinwei-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	iommu
	<iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tianhong Ding
	<dingtianhong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: replace writel with writel_relaxed in queue_inc_prod
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:08:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621090803.GB3768@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5949CBB7.1030908-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 09:28:23AM +0800, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
> On 2017/6/20 19:35, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > On 20/06/17 12:04, Zhen Lei wrote:
> >> This function is protected by spinlock, and the latter will do memory
> >> barrier implicitly. So that we can safely use writel_relaxed. In fact, the
> >> dmb operation will lengthen the time protected by lock, which indirectly
> >> increase the locking confliction in the stress scene.
> > 
> > If you remove the DSB between writing the commands (to Normal memory)
> > and writing the pointer (to Device memory), how can you guarantee that
> > the complete command is visible to the SMMU and it isn't going to try to
> > consume stale memory contents? The spinlock is irrelevant since it's
> > taken *before* the command is written.
> OK, I see, thanks. Let's me see if there are any other methods. And I think
> that this may should be done well by hardware.

FWIW, I did use the _relaxed variants wherever I could when I wrote the
driver. There might, of course, be bugs, but it's not like the normal case
for drivers where the author didn't consider the _relaxed accessors
initially.

Will

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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: replace writel with writel_relaxed in queue_inc_prod
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:08:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621090803.GB3768@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5949CBB7.1030908@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 09:28:23AM +0800, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
> On 2017/6/20 19:35, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > On 20/06/17 12:04, Zhen Lei wrote:
> >> This function is protected by spinlock, and the latter will do memory
> >> barrier implicitly. So that we can safely use writel_relaxed. In fact, the
> >> dmb operation will lengthen the time protected by lock, which indirectly
> >> increase the locking confliction in the stress scene.
> > 
> > If you remove the DSB between writing the commands (to Normal memory)
> > and writing the pointer (to Device memory), how can you guarantee that
> > the complete command is visible to the SMMU and it isn't going to try to
> > consume stale memory contents? The spinlock is irrelevant since it's
> > taken *before* the command is written.
> OK, I see, thanks. Let's me see if there are any other methods. And I think
> that this may should be done well by hardware.

FWIW, I did use the _relaxed variants wherever I could when I wrote the
driver. There might, of course, be bugs, but it's not like the normal case
for drivers where the author didn't consider the _relaxed accessors
initially.

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "Leizhen (ThunderTown)" <thunder.leizhen@huawei.com>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan@huawei.com>, Xinwei Hu <huxinwei@huawei.com>,
	Tianhong Ding <dingtianhong@huawei.com>,
	Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: replace writel with writel_relaxed in queue_inc_prod
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:08:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621090803.GB3768@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5949CBB7.1030908@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 09:28:23AM +0800, Leizhen (ThunderTown) wrote:
> On 2017/6/20 19:35, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > On 20/06/17 12:04, Zhen Lei wrote:
> >> This function is protected by spinlock, and the latter will do memory
> >> barrier implicitly. So that we can safely use writel_relaxed. In fact, the
> >> dmb operation will lengthen the time protected by lock, which indirectly
> >> increase the locking confliction in the stress scene.
> > 
> > If you remove the DSB between writing the commands (to Normal memory)
> > and writing the pointer (to Device memory), how can you guarantee that
> > the complete command is visible to the SMMU and it isn't going to try to
> > consume stale memory contents? The spinlock is irrelevant since it's
> > taken *before* the command is written.
> OK, I see, thanks. Let's me see if there are any other methods. And I think
> that this may should be done well by hardware.

FWIW, I did use the _relaxed variants wherever I could when I wrote the
driver. There might, of course, be bugs, but it's not like the normal case
for drivers where the author didn't consider the _relaxed accessors
initially.

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-21  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20 11:04 [PATCH 1/1] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: replace writel with writel_relaxed in queue_inc_prod Zhen Lei
2017-06-20 11:04 ` Zhen Lei
     [not found] ` <1497956694-11784-1-git-send-email-thunder.leizhen-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 11:35   ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-20 11:35     ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-20 11:35     ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-21  1:28     ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-21  1:28       ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-21  1:28       ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
     [not found]       ` <5949CBB7.1030908-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21  9:08         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-06-21  9:08           ` Will Deacon
2017-06-21  9:08           ` Will Deacon
2017-06-26 13:29           ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-26 13:29             ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-26 13:29             ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-26 13:41             ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-26 13:41               ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2017-06-26 13:41               ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)

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