From: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm/arm64: Handle hva aging while destroying the vm
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:35:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704083542.GK4066@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170703234149.GE5738@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 01:41:49AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:48:03AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > On 07/03/2017 10:03 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > > Hi Alex,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:21:59PM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > >> If we want to age an HVA while the VM is getting destroyed, we have a
> > >> tiny race window during which we may end up dereferencing an invalid
> > >> kvm->arch.pgd value.
> > >>
> > >> CPU0 CPU1
> > >>
> > >> kvm_age_hva()
> > >> kvm_mmu_notifier_release()
> > >> kvm_arch_flush_shadow_all()
> > >> kvm_free_stage2_pgd()
> > >> <grab mmu_lock>
> > >> stage2_get_pmd()
> > >> <wait for mmu_lock>
> > >> set kvm->arch.pgd = 0
> > >> <free mmu_lock>
> > >> <grab mmu_lock>
> > >> stage2_get_pud()
> > >> <access kvm->arch.pgd>
> > >> <use incorrect value>
> > > I don't think this sequence, can happen, but I think kvm_age_hva() can
> > > be called with the mmu_lock held and kvm->pgd already being NULL.
> > >
> > > Is that possible for the mmu notifiers to be calling clear(_flush)_young
> > > while also calling notifier_release?
> >
> > I *think* the aging happens completely orthogonally to release. But
> > let's ask Andrea - I'm sure he knows :).
>
> I think the sequence can happen. All mmu notifier methods are flushed
> out of CPUs only through synchronize_srcu() which is called as the
> last step in __mmu_notifier_release/unregister. Only after _unregister
> returns you're sure kvm_age_hva cannot run anymore, until that point
> it can still run. Even during exit_mmap->mmu_notifier_release it can
> still run if invoked through rmap walks.
>
> So while the ->release method runs, all other mmu notifier methods
> could be still invoked concurrently.
>
> mmu notifier methods are only protected by srcu to prevent the mmu
> notifier structure to be freed from under them, but there's no
> additional locking to serialize them (except for the synchronize_srcu
> that happens as the last step of mmu_notifier_release/unregister, well
> after they may have called the ->release method).
>
> There's also a comment about it in __mmu_notifier_release:
>
> * runs with mm_users == 0. Other tasks may still invoke mmu notifiers
> * in parallel despite there being no task using this mm any more,
> * through the vmas outside of the exit_mmap context, such as with
> * vmtruncate. This serializes against mmu_notifier_unregister with
>
> And in the mmu_notifier_unregister too:
>
> * calling mmu_notifier_unregister. ->release or any other notifier
> * method may be invoked concurrently with mmu_notifier_unregister,
> * and only after mmu_notifier_unregister returned we're guaranteed
> * that ->release or any other method can't run anymore.
>
> Even ->release could in theory run concurrently against itself if
> mmu_notifier_unregister runs concurrently with mmu_notifier_release
> but that's purely theoretical possibility.
>
Thanks for the clarification.
So Alex, I think you just need to fix the commit message of this patch.
Thanks,
-Christoffer
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From: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm/arm64: Handle hva aging while destroying the vm
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:35:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704083542.GK4066@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170703234149.GE5738@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 01:41:49AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:48:03AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > On 07/03/2017 10:03 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > > Hi Alex,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 05:21:59PM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > >> If we want to age an HVA while the VM is getting destroyed, we have a
> > >> tiny race window during which we may end up dereferencing an invalid
> > >> kvm->arch.pgd value.
> > >>
> > >> CPU0 CPU1
> > >>
> > >> kvm_age_hva()
> > >> kvm_mmu_notifier_release()
> > >> kvm_arch_flush_shadow_all()
> > >> kvm_free_stage2_pgd()
> > >> <grab mmu_lock>
> > >> stage2_get_pmd()
> > >> <wait for mmu_lock>
> > >> set kvm->arch.pgd = 0
> > >> <free mmu_lock>
> > >> <grab mmu_lock>
> > >> stage2_get_pud()
> > >> <access kvm->arch.pgd>
> > >> <use incorrect value>
> > > I don't think this sequence, can happen, but I think kvm_age_hva() can
> > > be called with the mmu_lock held and kvm->pgd already being NULL.
> > >
> > > Is that possible for the mmu notifiers to be calling clear(_flush)_young
> > > while also calling notifier_release?
> >
> > I *think* the aging happens completely orthogonally to release. But
> > let's ask Andrea - I'm sure he knows :).
>
> I think the sequence can happen. All mmu notifier methods are flushed
> out of CPUs only through synchronize_srcu() which is called as the
> last step in __mmu_notifier_release/unregister. Only after _unregister
> returns you're sure kvm_age_hva cannot run anymore, until that point
> it can still run. Even during exit_mmap->mmu_notifier_release it can
> still run if invoked through rmap walks.
>
> So while the ->release method runs, all other mmu notifier methods
> could be still invoked concurrently.
>
> mmu notifier methods are only protected by srcu to prevent the mmu
> notifier structure to be freed from under them, but there's no
> additional locking to serialize them (except for the synchronize_srcu
> that happens as the last step of mmu_notifier_release/unregister, well
> after they may have called the ->release method).
>
> There's also a comment about it in __mmu_notifier_release:
>
> * runs with mm_users == 0. Other tasks may still invoke mmu notifiers
> * in parallel despite there being no task using this mm any more,
> * through the vmas outside of the exit_mmap context, such as with
> * vmtruncate. This serializes against mmu_notifier_unregister with
>
> And in the mmu_notifier_unregister too:
>
> * calling mmu_notifier_unregister. ->release or any other notifier
> * method may be invoked concurrently with mmu_notifier_unregister,
> * and only after mmu_notifier_unregister returned we're guaranteed
> * that ->release or any other method can't run anymore.
>
> Even ->release could in theory run concurrently against itself if
> mmu_notifier_unregister runs concurrently with mmu_notifier_release
> but that's purely theoretical possibility.
>
Thanks for the clarification.
So Alex, I think you just need to fix the commit message of this patch.
Thanks,
-Christoffer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-04 8:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-23 15:21 [PATCH] KVM: arm/arm64: Handle hva aging while destroying the vm Alexander Graf
2017-07-03 8:03 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-03 8:03 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-03 8:48 ` Alexander Graf
2017-07-03 8:48 ` Alexander Graf
2017-07-03 23:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-03 23:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-07-04 8:35 ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-07-04 8:35 ` Christoffer Dall
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2017-08-10 8:54 Suzuki K Poulose
2017-08-11 21:04 ` Greg KH
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