From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] change x86 default machine type to Q35?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:59:43 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170710135943.GG12152@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <626ce419-8418-a4a2-88d3-b61bf20bbb32@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:42:26AM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> On 07/07/2017 21:03, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 06:17:57PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:39:49AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 12:32:10PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
[...]
> > > > >
> > > > > The upper layers should manage the defaults by themselves so
> > > > > are not supposed to be affected.
> > > >
> > > > But they would be. libvirt uses the default machine-type from
> > > > QEMU.
> > >
> > > How about extending the command for supported machines with a
> > > recommended machine type, and teaching libvirt to use that?
> >
> > I don't think QEMU has enough information to decide if it should
> > recommend "q35" or "pc".
>
> We don't really need a complicated rule set, we would just recommend q35
> by default. Libvirt will try to create the default machine and if fails
> for some reason (what would it be?) it can switch to PC.
>
> The advanced logic would be "old systems should use PC", where old
> means Windows XP and before and so on. But this logic should appear
> in management layers above.
In this case, is there any difference between "changing the
default to q35" and "recommending q35", for libvirt users?
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-10 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-05 6:57 [Qemu-devel] change x86 default machine type to Q35? Chao Peng
2017-07-05 8:14 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-05 9:32 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-07-07 13:39 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-07 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-07 18:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-10 7:42 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-07-10 9:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-10 13:59 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2017-07-10 16:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-10 17:47 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-11 7:48 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-11 8:01 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-07-11 8:13 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-07-11 14:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-07-11 14:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-12 6:39 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-07-12 15:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 5:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-07-12 6:18 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-07-12 8:28 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-07-11 14:47 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-05 11:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-05 11:13 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-06 10:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-06 10:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-11 10:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-05 10:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-05 11:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-05 11:44 ` Fam Zheng
2017-07-05 11:58 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-05 12:22 ` Fam Zheng
2017-07-06 10:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-06 10:57 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-06 11:00 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-06 11:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-06 11:12 ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-06 11:13 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-07 13:49 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-05 12:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
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