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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>,
	JB <jb_lescher@sigmadesigns.com>, Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:46:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170715164626.GA1373@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5864280.u6UQBsuXnA@aspire.rjw.lan>

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Hi!

> > > I had an idea of using an enum type encompassing all of the power states
> > > defined for various platforms and serving both as a registry (to ensure the
> > > uniqueness of the values assigned to the states) and a common ground
> > > between platforms and drivers.
> > > 
> > > Something like:
> > > 
> > > enum platform_target_state {
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_UNKNOWN = -1,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_WORKING = 0,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S1,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S2,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S3,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_CLOCKS,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_POWER,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ANOTHER_BOARD_DO_CRAZY_STUFF,
> > > 	...
> > > };
> > > 
> > > and define ->target_state to return a value of this type.
> > > 
> > > Then, if a driver sees one of these and recognizes that value, it should
> > > know exactly what to do.
> > 
> > Remind me why this is good idea?
> 
> Because there are drivers that need to do specific things during
> suspend on a specific board when it goes into a specific state as a
> whole.

We have seen driver that cares about voltage to his device being
lost. That's reasonable.

Inquiring what the platform target state is... is not.

> > If board wants to know if certain regulator stays online during
> > suspend, it should invent an API for _that_.
> 
> Ideally, yes.  However, that may be problematic for multiplatform kernels,
> because they would need to have all of those APIs built in and the driver
> code to figure out which API to use would be rather nasty.

Lets do it the right way. Big enum is wrong.

We already have

struct regulator_state {
       int uV; /* suspend voltage */
       unsigned int mode; /* suspend regulator operating mode */
       int enabled; /* is regulator enabled in this suspend state */
       int disabled; /* is the regulator disabled in this suspend state */
};

 * struct regulation_constraints - regulator operating constraints.
  * @state_disk: State for regulator when system is suspended in disk
  * mode.
  * @state_mem: State for regulator when system is suspended in mem
  * mode.
  * @state_standby: State for regulator when system is suspended in
  * standby
  *                 mode.
   
. So it seems that maybe we should tell the drivers if we are entering
"state_mem" or "state_standby" (something I may have opposed, sorry),
then the driver can get neccessary information from regulator
framework.

I don't think it should cause problems with multiplatform kernels.

Best regards,
									Pavel

-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:46:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170715164626.GA1373@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5864280.u6UQBsuXnA@aspire.rjw.lan>

Hi!

> > > I had an idea of using an enum type encompassing all of the power states
> > > defined for various platforms and serving both as a registry (to ensure the
> > > uniqueness of the values assigned to the states) and a common ground
> > > between platforms and drivers.
> > > 
> > > Something like:
> > > 
> > > enum platform_target_state {
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_UNKNOWN = -1,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_WORKING = 0,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S1,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S2,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S3,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_CLOCKS,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_POWER,
> > > 	PLATFORM_STATE_ANOTHER_BOARD_DO_CRAZY_STUFF,
> > > 	...
> > > };
> > > 
> > > and define ->target_state to return a value of this type.
> > > 
> > > Then, if a driver sees one of these and recognizes that value, it should
> > > know exactly what to do.
> > 
> > Remind me why this is good idea?
> 
> Because there are drivers that need to do specific things during
> suspend on a specific board when it goes into a specific state as a
> whole.

We have seen driver that cares about voltage to his device being
lost. That's reasonable.

Inquiring what the platform target state is... is not.

> > If board wants to know if certain regulator stays online during
> > suspend, it should invent an API for _that_.
> 
> Ideally, yes.  However, that may be problematic for multiplatform kernels,
> because they would need to have all of those APIs built in and the driver
> code to figure out which API to use would be rather nasty.

Lets do it the right way. Big enum is wrong.

We already have

struct regulator_state {
       int uV; /* suspend voltage */
       unsigned int mode; /* suspend regulator operating mode */
       int enabled; /* is regulator enabled in this suspend state */
       int disabled; /* is the regulator disabled in this suspend state */
};

 * struct regulation_constraints - regulator operating constraints.
  * @state_disk: State for regulator when system is suspended in disk
  * mode.
  * @state_mem: State for regulator when system is suspended in mem
  * mode.
  * @state_standby: State for regulator when system is suspended in
  * standby
  *                 mode.
   
. So it seems that maybe we should tell the drivers if we are entering
"state_mem" or "state_standby" (something I may have opposed, sorry),
then the driver can get neccessary information from regulator
framework.

I don't think it should cause problems with multiplatform kernels.

Best regards,
									Pavel

-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-15 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09 15:20 Drivers taking different actions depending on sleep state Mason
2017-06-09 15:20 ` Mason
2017-06-09 16:27 ` Mason
2017-06-09 16:27   ` Mason
2017-06-09 21:30   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-09 21:30     ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-10  9:16     ` Mason
2017-06-10  9:16       ` Mason
2017-06-09 22:05 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-09 22:05   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-09 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-09 22:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 21:16   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 21:16     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 21:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 21:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 22:48       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 22:48         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 22:57         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 22:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 23:55           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 23:55             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22  0:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 15:18               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22 15:18                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22 16:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 16:09                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22  8:51             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-22  8:51               ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-22 16:00               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 16:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-23  1:08               ` [RFC 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` [RFC 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:00                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-29 23:00                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-12 18:08                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-12 18:08                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-14 22:16                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-14 22:16                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15  6:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15  6:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 12:17                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 12:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 16:46                             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-07-15 16:46                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 17:20                               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 17:20                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 18:33                                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-15 18:33                                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-06  3:18                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:18                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 13:41                                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 13:41                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 15:35                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:35                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:24                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:34                                   ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:34                                     ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:38                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:38                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:22                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:22                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 13:38                                           ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 13:38                                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 18:24                                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 18:24                                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41                                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:41                                             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:29                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:29                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-06  3:17                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:17                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 10:28                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:28                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 18:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 18:22                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` [RFC 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:04                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-29 23:04                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                 ` [PATCH 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` [PATCH 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-06  3:18                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:41                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:30                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:30                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` [PATCH 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06                   ` [PATCH v2] PM / suspend: Add suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:16                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 20:16                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 21:03                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:03                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:21                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 21:21                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-20  8:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-20  8:03                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 22:10                   ` [PATCH v3] PM / suspend: Export pm_suspend_target_state Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 22:10                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 23:24                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 23:24                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-18  0:19                     ` [PATCH v4] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-18  0:19                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-24 20:55                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-24 20:55                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-13 12:03               ` Drivers taking different actions depending on sleep state Pavel Machek
2017-07-13 12:03                 ` Pavel Machek

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