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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 16/20] system: separate sysv and systemd parts of the skeleton
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:31:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170723103147.GF26998@scaer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75f5daaf-c750-3f24-670e-ab470d845b16@mind.be>

On 2017-07-23 02:13 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
> 
> 
> On 23-07-17 02:08, Arnout Vandecappelle wrote:
> > 
> > On 18-07-17 19:25, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> >> systems does not like that the content of /var be symlinks to /tmp,
> >   systemd
> > 
> >> especially journald that starts before /tmp is mounted, and thus the
> >> journal files are hidden from view, which causes wuite a bit if fuss...
> >                                                    quite
> >> Instead, move the current /var to a sysv-only skeleton.
> >>
> >> systemd at install time will create the /var content it needs, so we
> >  I guess systemd will also create a tmpfs on /var?
> 
>  Seems the following sentence got dropped:
> 
> What happens when a package installs something in /var?

Since we do not (yet) support a read-only root filesystem for systemd,
and that systemd does _not_ automatically mount anything on /var, we
always have /var that is writable, and thus whatever a package installs
in /var at build time is in /var at runtime.

Now, see the followup patches, that add support for a read-only rootfs
with systemd:

    fs: add pre- and post-command hooks
    system: make systemd work on a read-only rootfs

Even though the code for each is relatively simple, there is a *lot* of
explanations in there about /var handling on a read-only rootfs with
systemd.

But again, so far, we only ever supported systemd on a read-write rootfs.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-23 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-18 17:25 [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/20] system: properly handle systemd as init system Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 01/20] support/tests: allow properly indented config fragment Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 20:45   ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 02/20] core/pkg-generic: add variable to skip skeleton dependency Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 12:27   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  9:12     ` Peter Korsgaard
2017-07-23  9:21       ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 13:01         ` Peter Korsgaard
2017-07-22 13:41   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 03/20] package/skeleton: add macro to rsync skeleton directory Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 12:34   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 13:02   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 14:33     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:42   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/20] package/skeleton: make SKELETON_LIB_SYMLINK a macro Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 12:56   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 19:47     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 21:02       ` [Buildroot] Is MIPS_NABI32 a 64-bit architecture? [was: [PATCH 04/20] package/skeleton: make SKELETON_LIB_SYMLINK a macro] Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 13:50   ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/20] package/skeleton: make SKELETON_LIB_SYMLINK a macro Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 14:23     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 19:45   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 05/20] system: provide package-wide system variables and macros Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:00   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 06/20] system: move setting getty to the corresponding init systems Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:11   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 19:57     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 21:13       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 20:34   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 07/20] system: move remounting / " Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:16   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 20:36   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 08/20] system: with no init system, only allow custom skeleton Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:28   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 13:53     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 21:18       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 22:12         ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 09/20] package/skeleton: drop dependency on host-mkpasswd Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 21:24   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 22:32     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 10/20] package/skeleton: select it rather than default to y Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 21:47   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 11/20] package/skeleton: split out into skeleton-custom Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 22:31   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 22:38     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  9:45       ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 12/20] package/skeleton: split out into skeleton-common Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:06   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  9:48     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:32       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-24  7:19         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-24 15:19           ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 13/20] package/skeleton: make it a virtual package Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:36   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:13     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:48       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 14/20] package/skeleton-common: simplify staging install Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:38   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 15/20] package/skeleton: introduce sysv- and systemd-specific skeletons Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:49   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:15     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 16/20] system: separate sysv and systemd parts of the skeleton Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23  0:08   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  0:13     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:31       ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2017-07-23 10:24     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 13:32       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 13:39         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 13:41           ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 17/20] sytem: no-init systems may use our default, common skeleton Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23  0:18   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:37     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 18/20] fs: add pre- and post-command hooks Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 13:42   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 14:17     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 21:51       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-24 16:01         ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24 22:23           ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 19/20] system: make systemd work on a read-only rootfs Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 22:18   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-24 15:45     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24 22:44       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-25 16:07         ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-25 22:24           ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 20/20] support/testing: add runtime testing for init systems Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 14:32   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 14:45     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 19:30       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 19:53       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 20:10         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 22:50           ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23  7:58             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-23  9:26               ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 18:13                 ` [Buildroot] TestIso9660GrubExternal and TestIso9660GrubInternal failing Ricardo Martincoski
2017-07-23 20:02                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:28                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:39                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24  7:13                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-24 11:07                     ` Ricardo Martincoski
2017-07-24 15:18                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24 15:20   ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 20/20] support/testing: add runtime testing for init systems Andrey Smirnov
2017-07-24 15:50     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-19 20:14 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/20] system: properly handle systemd as init system Andrey Yurovsky
2017-07-19 20:53   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-19 22:17     ` Andrey Yurovsky
2017-07-20  7:32       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-21 22:15         ` Marcus Hoffmann
2017-07-28 20:41           ` Marcus Hoffmann
2017-07-28 20:54             ` Thomas Petazzoni

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