From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Pantelis Antoniou
<pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Frank Rowand
<frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Phil Elwell
<philip.j.elwell-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Nishanth Menon <nm-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Devicetree Compiler
<devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Tom Rini <trini-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Tero Kristo <t-kristo-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fdt: Allow stacked overlays phandle references
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 14:32:27 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726043227.GC8978@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1500016861.19864.26.camel@hp800z>
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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:21:01AM +0300, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
> Hi Frank,
>
> On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 14:40 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> > On 07/13/17 14:22, Phil Elwell wrote:
> > > On 13/07/2017 21:07, Frank Rowand wrote:
> > >> On 07/13/17 12:38, Phil Elwell wrote:
> > >>
>
> [snip]
>
> > > hope an inability to solve the problem posed by this advanced usage won't
> > > prevent a solution to a simpler problem from being accepted.
>
> I have waited until people started commenting on this patchset before
> replying.
>
> I think we agree on a few things to keep the discussion moving forward.
>
> 1. Stacked overlays are useful and make overlays easier to use.
Agreed.
> 2. Changing the overlay symbols format now would be unwise.
Agreed. At least, I don't think updating the symbols alone would be
silly without revisiting everything in the overlay format and making
something completely new.
> 3. A number of extensions have been put forward/requested.
>
> 3.1. There should be a method to place a symbol on a node that didn't
> have one originally (due to vendor supplying broken DTB or being
> generated by firmware at runtime).
There already is. An overlay can update *anything* in the base tree,
including the /__symbols__ node. Of course you need the exact path of
the node to tag in the base tree, but you were always going to need
that.
> 3.2. Scoping symbol visibility in case of clashes. This can the ability
> to put multiple path references to a single label/symbol. i.e.
> foo = "/path/bar", "/path/bar/baz";
> Resolving the ambiguity would require the caller to provide it's
> 'location' on the tree. I.e. a device under /path/bar/baz would resolve
> to the latter. It is a big change semantically.
I think this would be a nice idea, but trying to do it as a update to
the existing overlay format will be really difficult verging on
impossible.
Better to keep this in mind as a design goal for a new format to
replace overlays.
--
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| _way_ _around_!
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2017-06-14 14:52 [PATCH 0/2] stacked overlay support Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1497451946-15443-1-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-14 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] fdt: Allow stacked overlays phandle references Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <1497451946-15443-2-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-03 9:06 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170703090648.GV13989-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-03 12:41 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-07-07 7:09 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170707070915.GD24325-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-07 14:01 ` Tom Rini
2017-07-13 19:51 ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 19:40 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5967CCA8.6030406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 4:18 ` David Gibson
2017-07-13 19:35 ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 19:31 ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 19:38 ` Phil Elwell
[not found] ` <CAPhXvM4NzU61dENLeJ2Xt=arKqYFjXaPBvzrjxAJ7h3Y-gT4Nw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 20:07 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5967D2F7.60303-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 20:08 ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 21:22 ` Phil Elwell
[not found] ` <f06fe24c-7f32-4e7d-c28b-2e5b31c5dbf0-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 21:40 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5967E8BC.4090307-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-14 7:21 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-07-24 18:06 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <59763739.4070708-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 20:51 ` Phil Elwell
[not found] ` <7b6a51ad-70a4-efaf-0a11-c576a95fd222-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 22:44 ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-26 4:55 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170726045533.GD8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 14:03 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5978A11F.1010008-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 7:24 ` David Gibson
2017-07-26 4:32 ` David Gibson [this message]
[not found] ` <20170726043227.GC8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 13:59 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5978A047.6060406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 7:23 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170727072351.GA7970-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 17:24 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <597A21C1.6030104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-31 4:06 ` David Gibson
2017-07-26 4:28 ` David Gibson
2017-07-26 4:23 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170726042315.GA8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 15:01 ` Tom Rini
2017-07-27 7:25 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20170727072534.GC7970-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 11:24 ` Tom Rini
[not found] ` <5967CAA6.6010801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 4:21 ` David Gibson
2017-06-14 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] tests: Add stacked overlay tests on fdtoverlay Pantelis Antoniou
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