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From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Pantelis Antoniou
	<pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Phil Elwell
	<philip.j.elwell-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Devicetree Compiler
	<devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Rini <trini-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Tero Kristo <t-kristo-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fdt: Allow stacked overlays phandle references
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 14:55:33 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170726045533.GD8978@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59763739.4070708-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:06:49AM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> On 07/14/17 00:21, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
> 
> Keeping in mind that this thread was originally about libfdt,
> not the Linux kernel, I am mostly talking about the Linux
> kernel implementation in this email.
> 
> 
> > Hi Frank,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 14:40 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> >> On 07/13/17 14:22, Phil Elwell wrote:
> >>> On 13/07/2017 21:07, Frank Rowand wrote:
> >>>> On 07/13/17 12:38, Phil Elwell wrote:
> >>>>
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> >>> hope an inability to solve the problem posed by this advanced usage won't
> >>> prevent a solution to a simpler problem from being accepted.
> > 
> > I have waited until people started commenting on this patchset before
> > replying.
> > 
> > I think we agree on a few things to keep the discussion moving forward.
> > 
> > 1. Stacked overlays are useful and make overlays easier to use.
> 
> Stacked overlays are required to handle an add-on board that
> contains physical connectors to plug in yet more things.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean when you say they "make overlays
> easier to use".  Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
> 
> 
> > 2. Changing the overlay symbols format now would be unwise.
> 
> I strongly disagree.  I would say that it is desirable to maintain
> the current overlay format (not just __symbols__), and that there
> will be pain (for bootloaders???) if the format changes.  But
> the Linux implementation is not locked in if there is a good
> reason to change the format.
> 
> 
> > 3. A number of extensions have been put forward/requested.
> > 
> > 3.1. There should be a method to place a symbol on a node that didn't
> > have one originally (due to vendor supplying broken DTB or being
> > generated by firmware at runtime).
> 
> You saw my reaction of what to do about a broken vendor DTB in that
> thread.  I do not think this method is a good idea.
> 
> I don't know why a DTB generated by firmware would be missing a symbol.
> Was that discussed in that thread, and I'm just forgetting it?

Because 9 times out of 10, firmware is crap?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-26  4:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-14 14:52 [PATCH 0/2] stacked overlay support Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found] ` <1497451946-15443-1-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-14 14:52   ` [PATCH 1/2] fdt: Allow stacked overlays phandle references Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]     ` <1497451946-15443-2-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-03  9:06       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20170703090648.GV13989-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-03 12:41           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-07-07  7:09             ` David Gibson
     [not found]               ` <20170707070915.GD24325-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-07 14:01                 ` Tom Rini
2017-07-13 19:51                   ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 19:40                 ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                   ` <5967CCA8.6030406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26  4:18                     ` David Gibson
2017-07-13 19:35             ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 19:31           ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 19:38             ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]               ` <CAPhXvM4NzU61dENLeJ2Xt=arKqYFjXaPBvzrjxAJ7h3Y-gT4Nw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 20:07                 ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                   ` <5967D2F7.60303-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 20:08                     ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-13 21:22                     ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]                       ` <f06fe24c-7f32-4e7d-c28b-2e5b31c5dbf0-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-13 21:40                         ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                           ` <5967E8BC.4090307-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-14  7:21                             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-07-24 18:06                               ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                 ` <59763739.4070708-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 20:51                                   ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]                                     ` <7b6a51ad-70a4-efaf-0a11-c576a95fd222-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 22:44                                       ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-26  4:55                                   ` David Gibson [this message]
     [not found]                                     ` <20170726045533.GD8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 14:03                                       ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                         ` <5978A11F.1010008-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27  7:24                                           ` David Gibson
2017-07-26  4:32                               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                 ` <20170726043227.GC8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 13:59                                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                     ` <5978A047.6060406-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27  7:23                                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                         ` <20170727072351.GA7970-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 17:24                                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                             ` <597A21C1.6030104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-31  4:06                                               ` David Gibson
2017-07-26  4:28                             ` David Gibson
2017-07-26  4:23                 ` David Gibson
     [not found]                   ` <20170726042315.GA8978-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26 15:01                     ` Tom Rini
2017-07-27  7:25                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                         ` <20170727072534.GC7970-K0bRW+63XPQe6aEkudXLsA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-27 11:24                           ` Tom Rini
     [not found]             ` <5967CAA6.6010801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-26  4:21               ` David Gibson
2017-06-14 14:52   ` [PATCH 2/2] tests: Add stacked overlay tests on fdtoverlay Pantelis Antoniou

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