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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>,
	Arkadiusz Golec <agolec@cadence.com>,
	Alan Douglas <adouglas@cadence.com>,
	Bartosz Folta <bfolta@cadence.com>, Damian Kos <dkos@cadence.com>,
	Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak <alicja@cadence.com>,
	Jan Kotas <jank@cadence.com>,
	Cyprian Wronka <cwronka@cadence.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/5] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 17:01:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170801150108.GC1450@katana> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170801164826.423183ff@bbrezillon>

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> I do not know of any real devices as of today (all my tests have been
> done with a dummy/fake I3C slaves emulated with a slave IP),

I see.

> spec clearly describe what legacy/static addresses are for and one of
> their use case is to connect an I3C device on an I2C bus and let it act
> as an I2C device.

OK. That makes it more likely.

> Unless you want your device (likely a sensor) to be compatible with both
> I3C and I2C so that you can target even more people.

Right. My question was if this is a realistic or more academic scenario.

> I'm perfectly fine with the I3C / I2C framework separation. The only
> minor problem I had with that was the inaccuracy of the
> sysfs/device-model representation: we don't have one i2c and one i3c
> bus, we just have one i3c bus with a mix of i2c and i3c devices.

I understand that. What if I2C had the same seperation between the "bus"
and the "master"?


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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>,
	Arkadiusz Golec <agolec@cadence.com>,
	Alan Douglas <adouglas@cadence.com>,
	Bartosz Folta <bfolta@cadence.com>, Damian Kos <dkos@cadence.com>,
	Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak <alicja@cadence.com>,
	Jan Kotas <jank@cadence.com>,
	Cyprian Wronka <cwronka@cadence.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/5] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 17:01:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170801150108.GC1450@katana> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170801164826.423183ff@bbrezillon>

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> I do not know of any real devices as of today (all my tests have been
> done with a dummy/fake I3C slaves emulated with a slave IP),

I see.

> spec clearly describe what legacy/static addresses are for and one of
> their use case is to connect an I3C device on an I2C bus and let it act
> as an I2C device.

OK. That makes it more likely.

> Unless you want your device (likely a sensor) to be compatible with both
> I3C and I2C so that you can target even more people.

Right. My question was if this is a realistic or more academic scenario.

> I'm perfectly fine with the I3C / I2C framework separation. The only
> minor problem I had with that was the inaccuracy of the
> sysfs/device-model representation: we don't have one i2c and one i3c
> bus, we just have one i3c bus with a mix of i2c and i3c devices.

I understand that. What if I2C had the same seperation between the "bus"
and the "master"?


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-01 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-31 16:24 [RFC 0/5] Add I3C subsystem Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 16:24 ` [RFC 1/5] i2c: Export of_i2c_get_board_info() Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 16:24 ` [RFC 2/5] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 19:17   ` Wolfram Sang
2017-07-31 19:17     ` Wolfram Sang
2017-07-31 20:46     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 20:46       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 20:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-07-31 20:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <CAK8P3a06GoMdKdn=3Cq0FUwYnjGX0oG+FQLjxfiasVDpbonWRw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-31 21:15       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 21:15         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 21:32         ` Peter Rosin
2017-07-31 21:32           ` Peter Rosin
2017-07-31 21:42         ` Wolfram Sang
2017-07-31 21:42           ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 16:47           ` Andrew F. Davis
2017-08-01 16:47             ` Andrew F. Davis
2017-08-01 17:27             ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 17:27               ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 21:47               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 21:47                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-02 10:21                 ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-02 10:21                   ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 12:00         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 12:00           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 12:29           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 12:29             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 13:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 13:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 13:34               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 13:34                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 13:58                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 13:58                   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 14:22                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 14:22                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 15:14                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 15:14                       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 20:16                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 20:16                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-01 14:12                 ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 14:12                   ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 14:48                   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 14:48                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 15:01                     ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2017-08-01 15:01                       ` Wolfram Sang
2017-08-01 15:20                       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 15:20                         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-03  8:03                         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-03  8:03                           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-16 21:03                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-08-16 21:03                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-08-17  7:48                         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-17  7:48                           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01  1:40   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-01  1:40     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]     ` <20170801014021.GA20004-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 10:48       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 10:48         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 17:51         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-01 17:51           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-01 21:30           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-01 21:30             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-02  0:54             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-02  0:54               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-02  2:13             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-02  2:13               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]               ` <20170802021327.GB23033-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-13 16:20                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-13 16:20                   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-13 16:51                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-13 16:51                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-08-17  9:03   ` Linus Walleij
2017-08-17  9:03     ` Linus Walleij
2017-08-17  9:28     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-17  9:28       ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found] ` <1501518290-5723-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-31 16:24   ` [RFC 3/5] dt-bindings: i3c: Document core bindings Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 16:24     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-09 23:43     ` Rob Herring
2017-08-09 23:43       ` Rob Herring
2017-08-10  8:49       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-08-10  8:49         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 16:24 ` [RFC 4/5] i3c: master: Add driver for Cadence IP Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 16:24 ` [RFC 5/5] dt-bindings: i3c: Document Cadence I3C master bindings Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 19:17 ` [RFC 0/5] Add I3C subsystem Wolfram Sang
2017-07-31 19:17   ` Wolfram Sang
2017-07-31 20:40   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 20:40     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-07-31 20:47     ` Wolfram Sang
2017-07-31 20:47       ` Wolfram Sang
2017-12-12 19:58   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-12 19:58     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-12 22:01     ` Wolfram Sang
2017-12-12 22:01       ` Wolfram Sang

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