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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: lvivier@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/17] migration: Create ram_multifd_page
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:14:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170808191436.GB2716@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ziba6iq0.fsf@secure.mitica>

* Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> > * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
> >> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> >> > My feeling, without having fully thought it through, is that
> >> > the locking around 'address' can be simplified; especially if the
> >> > sending-thread never actually changes it.
> >> >
> >> > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap04.html#tag_04_11
> >> > defines that most of the pthread_ functions act as barriers;
> >> > including the sem_post and pthread_cond_signal that qemu_sem_post
> >> > uses.
> >> 
> >> At the end of the series the code is this:
> >> 
> >>     qemu_mutex_lock(&p->mutex);
> >>     p->pages.num = pages->num;
> >>     iov_copy(p->pages.iov, pages->num, pages->iov, pages->num, 0,
> >>              iov_size(pages->iov, pages->num));
> 
> ****** HERE ******
> 
> >>     pages->num = 0;
> >>     qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
> >>  
> >> Are you sure that it looks like a good idea to drop the mutex?
> >> 
> >> The other thread uses pages->num to know if things are ready.
> >
> > Well, I wont push it too hard, but; if you:
> >   a) Know that the other thread isn't accessing the iov
> >       (because you previously know that it had set done)
> 
> This bit I know it is true.
> 
> >   b) Know the other thread wont access it until pages->num gets
> >      set
> 
> 
> 
> >   c) Ensure that all changes to the iov are visible before
> >      the pages->num write is visible - appropriate barriers/ordering
> 
> There is no barrier there that I can see.  I know that it probably work
> on x86, but in others?  I think that it *** HERE **** we need that
> memory barrier that we don't have.

Yes, I think that's smp_mb_release() - and you have to do an
smp_mb_acquire after reading the pages->num before accessing the iov.
(Probably worth checking with Paolo).
Or just stick with mutex's.


> > then you're good.  However, the mutex might be simpler.
> 
> Code (after all the changes) is:
> 
>     qemu_sem_wait(&multifd_send_state->sem);
>     qemu_mutex_lock(&multifd_send_state->mutex);
>     for (i = 0; i < multifd_send_state->count; i++) {
>         p = &multifd_send_state->params[i];
> 
>         if (p->done) {
>             p->done = false;
>             break;
>         }
>     }
>     qemu_mutex_unlock(&multifd_send_state->mutex);
>     qemu_mutex_lock(&p->mutex);
>     p->pages.num = pages->num;  /* we could probably switch this
>                                    statement  with the next, but I doubt
>                                    this would make a big difference */
>     iov_copy(p->pages.iov, pages->num, pages->iov, pages->num, 0,
>              iov_size(pages->iov, pages->num));
>     pages->num = 0;
>     qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
>     qemu_sem_post(&p->sem);
> 
> 
> And the other thread
> 
>         qemu_mutex_lock(&p->mutex);
>         [...]
>         if (p->pages.num) {
>             int num;
> 
>             num = p->pages.num;
>             p->pages.num = 0;
>             qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
> 
>             if (qio_channel_writev_all(p->c, p->pages.iov,
>                                        num, &error_abort)
>                 != num * TARGET_PAGE_SIZE) {
>                 MigrationState *s = migrate_get_current();
> 
>                 migrate_set_state(&s->state, MIGRATION_STATUS_ACTIVE,
>                                   MIGRATION_STATUS_FAILED);
>                 terminate_multifd_send_threads();
>                 return NULL;
>             }
>             qemu_mutex_lock(&multifd_send_state->mutex);
>             p->done = true;
>             qemu_mutex_unlock(&multifd_send_state->mutex);
>             qemu_sem_post(&multifd_send_state->sem);
>             continue;
>         }
>         qemu_mutex_unlock(&p->mutex);
>         qemu_sem_wait(&p->sem);
> 
> This code used to have condition variables for waiting.  With
> semaphores, we can probably remove the p->mutex, but then we need to
> think a lot each time that we do a change.
> 
> Later, Juan.

Dave

--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-08 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-17 13:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/17] Multifd Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/17] migrate: Add gboolean return type to migrate_channel_process_incoming Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 15:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-20  7:00     ` Peter Xu
2017-07-20  8:47       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-24 10:18         ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/17] migration: Create migration_ioc_process_incoming() Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 13:38   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-24 11:09     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/17] qio: Create new qio_channel_{readv, writev}_all Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 13:44   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-08-08  8:40     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08  9:25       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-19 15:42   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-19 15:43     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-19 16:04       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-19 16:08         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/17] migration: Add multifd capability Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 15:44   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08  8:42     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 17:14   ` Eric Blake
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/17] migration: Create x-multifd-threads parameter Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 16:00   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08  8:46     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08  9:44       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/17] migration: Create x-multifd-group parameter Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/17] migration: Create multifd migration threads Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 16:49   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08  8:58     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/17] migration: Split migration_fd_process_incomming Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 17:08   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-21 12:39     ` Eric Blake
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/17] migration: Start of multiple fd work Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 13:56   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-19 17:35   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08  9:35     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08  9:54       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-20  9:34   ` Peter Xu
2017-08-08  9:19     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-09  8:08       ` Peter Xu
2017-08-09 11:12         ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/17] migration: Create ram_multifd_page Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 19:02   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-20  8:10     ` Peter Xu
2017-07-20 11:48       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 15:58         ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08 16:04       ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-09  7:42         ` Peter Xu
2017-08-08 15:56     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08 16:30       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 18:02         ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08 19:14           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-08-09 16:48             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/17] migration: Really use multiple pages at a time Juan Quintela
2017-07-19 13:58   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-08-08 11:55     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-20  9:44   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 12:11     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-20  9:49   ` Peter Xu
2017-07-20 10:09     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-08 16:06     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-09  7:48       ` Peter Xu
2017-08-09  8:05         ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-09  8:12           ` Peter Xu
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/17] migration: Send the fd number which we are going to use for this page Juan Quintela
2017-07-20  9:58   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-09 16:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/17] migration: Create thread infrastructure for multifd recv side Juan Quintela
2017-07-20 10:22   ` Peter Xu
2017-08-08 11:41     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-09  5:53       ` Peter Xu
2017-07-20 10:29   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 11:51     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/17] migration: Delay the start of reception on main channel Juan Quintela
2017-07-20 10:56   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 11:29     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-20 11:10   ` Peter Xu
2017-08-08 11:30     ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/17] migration: Test new fd infrastructure Juan Quintela
2017-07-20 11:20   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/17] migration: Transfer pages over new channels Juan Quintela
2017-07-20 11:31   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 11:13     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08 11:32       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-17 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 17/17] migration: Flush receive queue Juan Quintela
2017-07-20 11:45   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-08 10:43     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-08 11:25       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-21  2:40   ` Peter Xu
2017-08-08 11:40     ` Juan Quintela
2017-08-10  6:49       ` Peter Xu
2017-07-21  6:03   ` Peter Xu
2017-07-21 10:53     ` Juan Quintela

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