From: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
To: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com,
bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, amine.kherbouche@6wind.com,
David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [RFC net-next v2] bridge lwtunnel, VPLS & NVGRE
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:32:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170822113207.GB773745@eidolon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f96d548c-7a64-ae9a-d1ea-e9fd065f9303@cumulusnetworks.com>
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 02:01:40PM +0300, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> On 22/08/17 03:01, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > I know the bridge is an easy target to extend L2 forwarding, but it is not
> > the only option. Have you condidered building a new driver (like VXLAN does)
> > which does the forwarding you want. Having all features in one driver
> > makes for worse performance, and increased complexity.
> >
>
> +1
>
> As I said before, a separate implementation will be much cleaner and will not affect
> the bridge in any way, paying both performance and complexity price for something that
> the majority of users will not be using isn't worth it. In addition this creates a
> silent dependency between the bridge and the fdb metadata dst users, it would be much
> more preferable to be able to run them separately.
> If there is any code that will need to be re-used by VPLS (or anyone else) figure out a way
> to factor it out.
Could you tell me why this argument didn't apply to the bridge vlan
tunnel code? It adds complexity to the bridge specifically for VXLAN
(and it does *not* transfer to VPLS or 802.11) and reduces performance
... by actually accessing the same metadata that this patchset does.
-David
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From: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
To: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com,
bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, amine.kherbouche@6wind.com,
David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v2] bridge lwtunnel, VPLS & NVGRE
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:32:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170822113207.GB773745@eidolon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f96d548c-7a64-ae9a-d1ea-e9fd065f9303@cumulusnetworks.com>
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 02:01:40PM +0300, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> On 22/08/17 03:01, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > I know the bridge is an easy target to extend L2 forwarding, but it is not
> > the only option. Have you condidered building a new driver (like VXLAN does)
> > which does the forwarding you want. Having all features in one driver
> > makes for worse performance, and increased complexity.
> >
>
> +1
>
> As I said before, a separate implementation will be much cleaner and will not affect
> the bridge in any way, paying both performance and complexity price for something that
> the majority of users will not be using isn't worth it. In addition this creates a
> silent dependency between the bridge and the fdb metadata dst users, it would be much
> more preferable to be able to run them separately.
> If there is any code that will need to be re-used by VPLS (or anyone else) figure out a way
> to factor it out.
Could you tell me why this argument didn't apply to the bridge vlan
tunnel code? It adds complexity to the bridge specifically for VXLAN
(and it does *not* transfer to VPLS or 802.11) and reduces performance
... by actually accessing the same metadata that this patchset does.
-David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-22 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-21 17:15 [Bridge] [RFC net-next v2] bridge lwtunnel, VPLS & NVGRE David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 1/6] bridge: lwtunnel support in FDB David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 2/6] bridge: lwtunnel netlink interface David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 3/6] gretap: support lwtunnel under bridge (NVGRE) David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 4/6] mpls: split forwarding path on rx/tx boundary David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 5/6] mpls: add VPLS entry points David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 6/6] mpls: VPLS support David Lamparter
2017-08-21 17:15 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-28 9:21 ` Amine Kherbouche
2017-08-28 9:21 ` [Bridge] " Amine Kherbouche
2017-08-22 0:01 ` [Bridge] [RFC net-next v2] bridge lwtunnel, VPLS & NVGRE Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-22 0:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-22 0:29 ` [Bridge] " David Lamparter
2017-08-22 0:29 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-22 11:01 ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-08-22 11:01 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-08-22 11:32 ` David Lamparter [this message]
2017-08-22 11:32 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-22 11:55 ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-08-22 11:55 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-08-22 12:06 ` [Bridge] " David Lamparter
2017-08-22 12:06 ` David Lamparter
2017-08-22 4:43 ` [Bridge] " Roopa Prabhu
2017-08-22 4:43 ` Roopa Prabhu
2017-08-22 11:24 ` [Bridge] " David Lamparter
2017-08-22 11:24 ` David Lamparter
2017-09-11 8:02 ` Amine Kherbouche
2017-09-11 8:02 ` [Bridge] " Amine Kherbouche
2017-09-19 14:46 ` Amine Kherbouche
2017-09-19 14:46 ` [Bridge] " Amine Kherbouche
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