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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will.deacon@arm.com,
	bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	vgoyal@redhat.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
	davem@davemloft.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, dyoung@redhat.com, bhe@redhat.com,
	arnd@arndb.de, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/14] arm64: kexec_file: create purgatory
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:22:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170825102250.GA3127@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170825010054.GC6434@akashi-kouhiroshi-no-MacBook-Air.local>

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:00:59AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 05:56:17PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 05:18:05PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > > This is a basic purgtory, or a kind of glue code between the two kernel,
> > > for arm64. We will later add a feature of verifying a digest check against
> > > loaded memory segments.
> > > 
> > > arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() is responsible for re-linking any
> > > relative symbols in purgatory. Please note that the purgatory is not
> > > an executable, but a non-linked archive of binaries so relative symbols
> > > contained here must be resolved at kexec load time.
> > > Despite that arm64_kernel_start and arm64_dtb_addr are only such global
> > > variables now, arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() can manage more various
> > > types of relocations.
> > 
> > Why does the purgatory code need to be so complex?
> > 
> > Why is it not possible to write this as position-independent asm?
> 
> I don't get your point, but please note that these values are also
> re-written by the 1st kernel when it loads the 2nd kernel and so
> they must appear as globals.

My fear about complexity is that we must "re-link" the purgatory.

I don't understand why that has to be necessary. Surely we can have the
purgatory code be position independent, and store those globals in a
single struct purgatory_info that we can fill in from the host?

i.e. similar to what we do for values shared with the VDSO, where we
just poke vdso_data->field, no re-linking required.

Otherwise, why can't the purgatory code be written in assembly? AFAICT,
the only complex part is the hashing code, which I don't beleive is
strictly necessary.

[...]

> > > +/*
> > > + * Apply purgatory relocations.
> > > + *
> > > + * ehdr: Pointer to elf headers
> > > + * sechdrs: Pointer to section headers.
> > > + * relsec: section index of SHT_RELA section.
> > > + *
> > > + * Note:
> > > + * Currently R_AARCH64_ABS64, R_AARCH64_LD_PREL_LO19 and R_AARCH64_CALL26
> > > + * are the only types to be generated from purgatory code.
> > 
> > Is this all that has been observed, or is this ensured somehow?
> 
> It was observed by inserting a debug print message in this function,
> I'm not sure whether we can restrict only those three types.

If we have to perform linking, I don't think we can assume the above is
sufficient.

> > The arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() function below duplicates a lot
> > of logic that already exists in the arm64 module loader's
> > apply_relocate_add() function.
> > 
> > Please reuse that code. Having a duplicate or alternative implementation
> > is just asking for subtle bugs.
> 
> Okey, I'll look at it.

Ok.

As above, I think it would be preferable that we avoid linking entirely.

Thanks,
Mark.

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From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 08/14] arm64: kexec_file: create purgatory
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:22:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170825102250.GA3127@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170825010054.GC6434@akashi-kouhiroshi-no-MacBook-Air.local>

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:00:59AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 05:56:17PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 05:18:05PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > > This is a basic purgtory, or a kind of glue code between the two kernel,
> > > for arm64. We will later add a feature of verifying a digest check against
> > > loaded memory segments.
> > > 
> > > arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() is responsible for re-linking any
> > > relative symbols in purgatory. Please note that the purgatory is not
> > > an executable, but a non-linked archive of binaries so relative symbols
> > > contained here must be resolved at kexec load time.
> > > Despite that arm64_kernel_start and arm64_dtb_addr are only such global
> > > variables now, arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() can manage more various
> > > types of relocations.
> > 
> > Why does the purgatory code need to be so complex?
> > 
> > Why is it not possible to write this as position-independent asm?
> 
> I don't get your point, but please note that these values are also
> re-written by the 1st kernel when it loads the 2nd kernel and so
> they must appear as globals.

My fear about complexity is that we must "re-link" the purgatory.

I don't understand why that has to be necessary. Surely we can have the
purgatory code be position independent, and store those globals in a
single struct purgatory_info that we can fill in from the host?

i.e. similar to what we do for values shared with the VDSO, where we
just poke vdso_data->field, no re-linking required.

Otherwise, why can't the purgatory code be written in assembly? AFAICT,
the only complex part is the hashing code, which I don't beleive is
strictly necessary.

[...]

> > > +/*
> > > + * Apply purgatory relocations.
> > > + *
> > > + * ehdr: Pointer to elf headers
> > > + * sechdrs: Pointer to section headers.
> > > + * relsec: section index of SHT_RELA section.
> > > + *
> > > + * Note:
> > > + * Currently R_AARCH64_ABS64, R_AARCH64_LD_PREL_LO19 and R_AARCH64_CALL26
> > > + * are the only types to be generated from purgatory code.
> > 
> > Is this all that has been observed, or is this ensured somehow?
> 
> It was observed by inserting a debug print message in this function,
> I'm not sure whether we can restrict only those three types.

If we have to perform linking, I don't think we can assume the above is
sufficient.

> > The arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() function below duplicates a lot
> > of logic that already exists in the arm64 module loader's
> > apply_relocate_add() function.
> > 
> > Please reuse that code. Having a duplicate or alternative implementation
> > is just asking for subtle bugs.
> 
> Okey, I'll look at it.

Ok.

As above, I think it would be preferable that we avoid linking entirely.

Thanks,
Mark.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will.deacon@arm.com,
	bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	vgoyal@redhat.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
	davem@davemloft.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, dyoung@redhat.com, bhe@redhat.com,
	arnd@arndb.de, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/14] arm64: kexec_file: create purgatory
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:22:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170825102250.GA3127@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170825010054.GC6434@akashi-kouhiroshi-no-MacBook-Air.local>

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:00:59AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 05:56:17PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 05:18:05PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > > This is a basic purgtory, or a kind of glue code between the two kernel,
> > > for arm64. We will later add a feature of verifying a digest check against
> > > loaded memory segments.
> > > 
> > > arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() is responsible for re-linking any
> > > relative symbols in purgatory. Please note that the purgatory is not
> > > an executable, but a non-linked archive of binaries so relative symbols
> > > contained here must be resolved at kexec load time.
> > > Despite that arm64_kernel_start and arm64_dtb_addr are only such global
> > > variables now, arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() can manage more various
> > > types of relocations.
> > 
> > Why does the purgatory code need to be so complex?
> > 
> > Why is it not possible to write this as position-independent asm?
> 
> I don't get your point, but please note that these values are also
> re-written by the 1st kernel when it loads the 2nd kernel and so
> they must appear as globals.

My fear about complexity is that we must "re-link" the purgatory.

I don't understand why that has to be necessary. Surely we can have the
purgatory code be position independent, and store those globals in a
single struct purgatory_info that we can fill in from the host?

i.e. similar to what we do for values shared with the VDSO, where we
just poke vdso_data->field, no re-linking required.

Otherwise, why can't the purgatory code be written in assembly? AFAICT,
the only complex part is the hashing code, which I don't beleive is
strictly necessary.

[...]

> > > +/*
> > > + * Apply purgatory relocations.
> > > + *
> > > + * ehdr: Pointer to elf headers
> > > + * sechdrs: Pointer to section headers.
> > > + * relsec: section index of SHT_RELA section.
> > > + *
> > > + * Note:
> > > + * Currently R_AARCH64_ABS64, R_AARCH64_LD_PREL_LO19 and R_AARCH64_CALL26
> > > + * are the only types to be generated from purgatory code.
> > 
> > Is this all that has been observed, or is this ensured somehow?
> 
> It was observed by inserting a debug print message in this function,
> I'm not sure whether we can restrict only those three types.

If we have to perform linking, I don't think we can assume the above is
sufficient.

> > The arch_kexec_apply_relocations_add() function below duplicates a lot
> > of logic that already exists in the arm64 module loader's
> > apply_relocate_add() function.
> > 
> > Please reuse that code. Having a duplicate or alternative implementation
> > is just asking for subtle bugs.
> 
> Okey, I'll look at it.

Ok.

As above, I think it would be preferable that we avoid linking entirely.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-25 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-24  8:17 [PATCH 00/14] arm64: kexec: add kexec_file_load support AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17 ` [PATCH 01/14] MODSIGN: Export module signature definitions AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17 ` [PATCH 02/14] include: pe.h: remove message[] from mz header definition AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:17   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  9:04   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:04     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:04     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 03/14] resource: add walk_system_ram_res_rev() AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  9:06   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:06     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:06     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-25  0:50     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  0:50       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  0:50       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-31  2:34   ` Pratyush Anand
2017-08-31  2:34     ` Pratyush Anand
2017-08-31  2:34     ` Pratyush Anand
2017-09-08  2:33     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:33       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:33       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 04/14] kexec_file: factor out vmlinux (elf) parser from powerpc AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 05/14] kexec_file: factor out crashdump elf header function from x86 AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  5:47   ` Dave Young
2017-08-25  5:47     ` Dave Young
2017-08-25  5:47     ` Dave Young
2017-09-08  2:31     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:31       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:31       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 06/14] kexec_file: add kexec_add_segment() AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 07/14] asm-generic: add kexec_file_load system call to unistd.h AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24 10:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-24 10:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-24 10:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 08/14] arm64: kexec_file: create purgatory AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  9:10   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:10     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:10     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-25  1:10     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:10       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:10       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24 16:56   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 16:56     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 16:56     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25  1:00     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:00       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:00       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25 10:22       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-08-25 10:22         ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25 10:22         ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25 16:16         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-08-25 16:16           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-08-25 16:16           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-09-08  2:46           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:46             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:46             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 09/14] arm64: kexec_file: add sha256 digest check in purgatory AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  9:13   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:13     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-24  9:13     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-25  1:25     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:25       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:25       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24 17:04   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:04     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:04     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25  1:21     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:21       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:21       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25 10:41       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25 10:41         ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25 10:41         ` Mark Rutland
2017-09-08  2:50         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:50           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:50           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08 15:59           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-09-08 15:59             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-09-08 15:59             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 10/14] arm64: kexec_file: load initrd, device-tree and purgatory segments AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24 17:11   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:11     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:11     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25  1:34     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:34       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:34       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 11/14] arm64: kexec_file: set up for crash dump adding elf core header AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 12/14] arm64: enable KEXEC_FILE config AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 13/14] arm64: kexec_file: add Image format support AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24 17:23   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:23     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:23     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25  1:49     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:49       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  1:49       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18 ` [PATCH 14/14] arm64: kexec_file: add vmlinux " AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24  8:18   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-24 17:30   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:30     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-24 17:30     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-25  2:03     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  2:03       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  2:03       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-25  6:13       ` Dave Young
2017-08-25  6:13         ` Dave Young
2017-08-25  6:13         ` Dave Young
2017-09-08  2:54         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:54           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  2:54           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-08-29 10:01     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-29 10:01       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-29 10:01       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-29 16:15       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-08-29 16:15         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-08-29 16:15         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2017-08-30  8:40       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-30  8:40         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-30  8:40         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-09-08  3:07       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  3:07         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-09-08  3:07         ` AKASHI Takahiro

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