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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: skip mm structs with mmu notifiers
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:49:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170830174904.GF13559@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170830084600.17491-1-mhocko@kernel.org>

Hello Michal,

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:46:00AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> +	 * TODO: we really want to get rid of this ugly hack and make sure that
> +	 * notifiers cannot block for unbounded amount of time and add
> +	 * mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_{start,end} around unmap_page_range

KVM already should be ok in that respect. However the major reason to
prefer mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start/end is those can block and
schedule waiting for stuff happening behind the PCI bus easily. So I'm
not sure if the TODO is good idea to keep.

> +	 */
> +	if (mm_has_notifiers(mm)) {
> +		schedule_timeout_idle(HZ);

Why the schedule_timeout? What's the difference with the OOM
reaper going to sleep again in the main loop instead?

> +		goto unlock_oom;
> +	}

mm_has_notifiers stops changing after obtaining the mmap_sem for
reading. See the do_mmu_notifier_register. So it's better to put the
mm_has_notifiers check immediately after the below:

>  	if (!down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem)) {
>  		ret = false;
>  		trace_skip_task_reaping(tsk->pid);

If we succeed taking the mmap_sem for reading then we read a stable
value out of mm_has_notifiers and be sure it won't be set from under
us.

Otherwise the patch looks fine including the incremental comment about
why the mmu_notifier_invalidate_range in MMU gather wasn't enough.

Thanks!
Andrea

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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: skip mm structs with mmu notifiers
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:49:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170830174904.GF13559@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170830084600.17491-1-mhocko@kernel.org>

Hello Michal,

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:46:00AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> +	 * TODO: we really want to get rid of this ugly hack and make sure that
> +	 * notifiers cannot block for unbounded amount of time and add
> +	 * mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_{start,end} around unmap_page_range

KVM already should be ok in that respect. However the major reason to
prefer mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start/end is those can block and
schedule waiting for stuff happening behind the PCI bus easily. So I'm
not sure if the TODO is good idea to keep.

> +	 */
> +	if (mm_has_notifiers(mm)) {
> +		schedule_timeout_idle(HZ);

Why the schedule_timeout? What's the difference with the OOM
reaper going to sleep again in the main loop instead?

> +		goto unlock_oom;
> +	}

mm_has_notifiers stops changing after obtaining the mmap_sem for
reading. See the do_mmu_notifier_register. So it's better to put the
mm_has_notifiers check immediately after the below:

>  	if (!down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem)) {
>  		ret = false;
>  		trace_skip_task_reaping(tsk->pid);

If we succeed taking the mmap_sem for reading then we read a stable
value out of mm_has_notifiers and be sure it won't be set from under
us.

Otherwise the patch looks fine including the incremental comment about
why the mmu_notifier_invalidate_range in MMU gather wasn't enough.

Thanks!
Andrea

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-30 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-30  8:46 [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: skip mm structs with mmu notifiers Michal Hocko
2017-08-30  8:46 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-30  9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-30  9:09   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-30 17:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2017-08-30 17:49   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-31  5:29   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-31  5:29     ` Michal Hocko

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