From: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Jiong Wang <jiong.wang@netronome.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
xdp-newbies@vger.kernel.org, llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org,
iovisor-dev@lists.iovisor.org, oss-drivers@netronome.com
Subject: Re: [iovisor-dev] [PATCH RFC 0/4] Initial 32-bit eBPF encoding support
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:41:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170923104125.3905f545@cakuba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b6518ff-9d66-f911-4a3c-d762d88919ec@fb.com>
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:03:47 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> On 9/22/17 9:24 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:56:55 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:20:40AM +0100, Jiong Wang via iovisor-dev wrote:
> >>> On 18/09/2017 22:29, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> >>>> On 09/18/2017 10:47 PM, Jiong Wang wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently, LLVM eBPF backend always generate code in 64-bit mode,
> >>>>> this may
> >>>>> cause troubles when JITing to 32-bit targets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For example, it is quite common for XDP eBPF program to access
> >>>>> some packet
> >>>>> fields through base + offset that the default eBPF will generate
> >>>>> BPF_ALU64 for
> >>>>> the address formation, later when JITing to 32-bit hardware,
> >>>>> BPF_ALU64 needs
> >>>>> to be expanded into 32 bit ALU sequences even though the address
> >>>>> space is
> >>>>> 32-bit that the high bits is not significant.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While a complete 32-bit mode implemention may need an new ABI
> >>>>> (something like
> >>>>> -target-abi=ilp32), this patch set first add some initial code so we
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> construct 32-bit eBPF tests through hand-written assembly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A new 32-bit register set is introduced, its name is with "w"
> >>>>> prefix and LLVM
> >>>>> assembler will encode statements like "w1 += w2" into the following
> >>>>> 8-bit code
> >>>>> field:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BPF_ADD | BPF_X | BPF_ALU
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BPF_ALU will be used instead of BPF_ALU64.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOTE, currently you can only use "w" register with ALU
> >>>>> statements, not with
> >>>>> others like branches etc as they don't have different encoding for
> >>>>> 32-bit
> >>>>> target.
> >>>>
> >>>> Great to see work in this direction! Can we also enable to use / emit
> >>>> all the 32bit BPF_ALU instructions whenever possible for the currently
> >>>> available bpf targets while at it (which only use BPF_ALU64 right now)?
> >>>
> >>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the feedback.
> >>>
> >>> I think we could also enable the use of all the 32bit BPF_ALU under
> >>> currently
> >>> available bpf targets. As we now have 32bit register set support, we could
> >>> make
> >>> i32 type as legal type to prevent it be promoted into i64, then hook it up
> >>> with i32
> >>> ALU patterns, will look into this.
> >>
> >> I don't think we need to gate 32bit alu generation with a flag.
> >> Though interpreter and JITs support 32-bit since day one, the verifier
> >> never seen such programs before, so some valid programs may get
> >> rejected. After some time passes and we're sure that all progs
> >> still work fine when they're optimized with 32-bit alu, we can flip
> >> the switch in llvm and make it default.
> >
> > Thinking about next steps - do we expect the 32b operations to clear the
> > upper halves of the registers? The interpreter does it, and so does
> > x86. I don't think we can load 32bit-only programs on 64bit hosts, so
> > we would need some form of data flow analysis in the kernel to prune
> > the zeroing for 32bit offload targets. Is that correct?
>
> Could you contrive an example to show the problem? If I understand
> correctly, you most worried that some natural sign extension is gone
> with "clearing the upper 32-bit register" and such clearing may make
> some operation, esp. memory operation not correct in 64-bit machine?
Hm. Perhaps it's a blunder on my side, but let's take:
r1 = ~0ULL
w1 = 0
# use r1
on x86 and the interpreter, the w1 = 0 will clear upper 32bits, so r1
ends up as 0. 32b arches may translate this to something like:
# r1 = ~0ULL
r1.lo = ~0
r1.hi = ~0
# w1 = 0
r1.lo = 0
# r1.hi not touched
which will obviously result in r1 == 0xffffffff00000000. LLVM should
not assume r1.hi is cleared, but I'm not sure this is a strong enough
argument.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-23 8:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-18 20:47 [PATCH RFC 0/4] Initial 32-bit eBPF encoding support Jiong Wang
2017-09-18 20:47 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] Improve instruction encoding descriptions Jiong Wang
2017-09-18 20:47 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] Improve class inheritance in instruction patterns Jiong Wang
2017-09-18 20:47 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] New 32-bit register set Jiong Wang
2017-09-19 6:44 ` [iovisor-dev] " Y Song
2017-09-19 23:10 ` Jiong Wang
2017-09-22 4:55 ` Y Song
2017-09-18 20:47 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] Initial 32-bit ALU encoding support in assembler Jiong Wang
2017-09-18 21:29 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Initial 32-bit eBPF encoding support Daniel Borkmann
2017-09-19 23:20 ` Jiong Wang
2017-09-19 23:24 ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-09-21 18:56 ` [iovisor-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-21 19:36 ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-09-22 16:24 ` [oss-drivers] " Jakub Kicinski
2017-09-23 5:03 ` Yonghong Song
2017-09-23 8:41 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2017-09-23 14:42 ` Y Song
2017-09-24 5:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-19 4:49 ` Fulvio Risso
2017-09-19 22:56 ` Jiong Wang
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