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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org" <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Brandt <Chris.Brandt@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/5] cramfs: add mmap support
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 07:57:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171003145732.GA8890@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YSQ.7.76.1710021931270.5407@knanqh.ubzr>

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 07:33:29PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > >
> > >> up_read(&mm->mmap_sem) in the fault path is a still a complete
> > >> no-go,
> > >>
> > >> NAK
> > >
> > > Care to elaborate?
> > >
> > > What about mm/filemap.c:__lock_page_or_retry() then?
> > 
> > As soon you up_read() in the page fault path other tasks will race
> > with you before
> > you're able to grab the write lock.
> 
> But I _know_ that.
> 
> Could you highlight an area in my code where this is not accounted for?

Existing users of lock_page_or_retry return VM_FAULT_RETRY right after
up()ing mmap_sem, and they must already have a reference to the page
which is the only thing touched until then.

Your patch instead goes for an exclusive mmap_sem if it can, and
even if there is nothing that breaks with that scheme right now
there s nothing documenting that this actually safe, and we are
way down in the complex page fault path.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org" <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Brandt <Chris.Brandt@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/5] cramfs: add mmap support
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 07:57:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171003145732.GA8890@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YSQ.7.76.1710021931270.5407@knanqh.ubzr>

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 07:33:29PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > >
> > >> up_read(&mm->mmap_sem) in the fault path is a still a complete
> > >> no-go,
> > >>
> > >> NAK
> > >
> > > Care to elaborate?
> > >
> > > What about mm/filemap.c:__lock_page_or_retry() then?
> > 
> > As soon you up_read() in the page fault path other tasks will race
> > with you before
> > you're able to grab the write lock.
> 
> But I _know_ that.
> 
> Could you highlight an area in my code where this is not accounted for?

Existing users of lock_page_or_retry return VM_FAULT_RETRY right after
up()ing mmap_sem, and they must already have a reference to the page
which is the only thing touched until then.

Your patch instead goes for an exclusive mmap_sem if it can, and
even if there is nothing that breaks with that scheme right now
there s nothing documenting that this actually safe, and we are
way down in the complex page fault path.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-03 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-27 23:32 [PATCH v4 0/5] cramfs refresh for embedded usage Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] cramfs: direct memory access support Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32   ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-01  8:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-01  8:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-01 22:27     ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-01 22:27       ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 14:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-03 14:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-03 15:06         ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 15:06           ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 14:43     ` Rob Herring
2017-10-03 14:43       ` Rob Herring
2017-10-03 14:58       ` Chris Brandt
2017-10-03 14:58         ` Chris Brandt
2017-09-27 23:32 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] cramfs: make cramfs_physmem usable as root fs Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32   ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] cramfs: implement uncompressed and arbitrary data block positioning Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32   ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] cramfs: add mmap support Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32   ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-01  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-01  8:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-01 22:29     ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-01 22:29       ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-02 22:45       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-10-02 22:45         ` Richard Weinberger
2017-10-02 23:33         ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-02 23:33           ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 14:57           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-10-03 14:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-03 15:30             ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 15:30               ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 15:37               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-03 15:37                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-03 15:40                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-03 15:40                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-04  7:25                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-04  7:25                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-04 20:47                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-04 20:47                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-05  7:15                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-05  7:15                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-05 17:52                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-05 17:52                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-05 20:00                       ` Chris Brandt
2017-10-05 20:00                         ` Chris Brandt
2017-10-05 21:15                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-05 21:15                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-10-05 23:49                           ` Chris Brandt
2017-10-05 23:49                             ` Chris Brandt
2017-09-27 23:32 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] cramfs: rehabilitate it Nicolas Pitre
2017-09-27 23:32   ` Nicolas Pitre

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