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From: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Cc: Nicolas Dechesne <nicolas.dechesne@linaro.org>,
	Srinivas Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
	David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	linux-soc@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: dts: qcom: Rename SBC to DragonBoard 410c
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 16:21:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171004232125.GC457@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGvHfKfuVRVoZvGkKKzLwRLvwJHJqBdbPUtwBY8_rH6V-w@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/04, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
> > On 10/04, Rob Clark wrote:
> >> If we managed to get this in before the 4.14 LTS I might feel
> >> differently.  But afterwards, totally not. :-(
> >>
> >
> > How do you install dtbs onto your device? Should be simple enough
> > to run 'mv' on the new filename to the old one?
> >
> 
> it is part of the kernel package

Are you copying the file out of the arch/arm64/boot/dts
directory? Or you're using dtbs_install rule?

> but fixing it in the distro means fixing it in *every* distro..

That assumes every distro has a bootloader that's looking for one
file name vs. the other. And that the distro hasn't updated the
bootloader to pick a different name.

> 
> if we are going for a workaround, then it should be the kernel
> installing a symlink.  Not every distro having to fix things up in the
> same way for one particular board.

There was a discussion about this years ago when the dtbs_install
rule was introduced to the kernel makefiles[1]. Maybe the
sentiment has changed, but it seems that people involved in that
thread didn't consider the filename an ABI. Also, take a look at
commit f4d4ffc03efc ("kbuild: dtbs_install: new make target")
where it says:

"Removed option to call external script. Copying the files should
be sufficient and a build system can post-process the install
directory.  Despite the fact an external script is used for
installing the kernel, I don't think that is a pattern that
should be encouraged. I would rather see buildroot type tools
post process the install directory to rename or move dtb files
after installing to a staging directory."

which makes it look like the distro installation scripts would
rename things if desired.

[1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2013-November/210562.html

-- 
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a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

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From: sboyd@codeaurora.org (Stephen Boyd)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: dts: qcom: Rename SBC to DragonBoard 410c
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 16:21:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171004232125.GC457@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGvHfKfuVRVoZvGkKKzLwRLvwJHJqBdbPUtwBY8_rH6V-w@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/04, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
> > On 10/04, Rob Clark wrote:
> >> If we managed to get this in before the 4.14 LTS I might feel
> >> differently.  But afterwards, totally not. :-(
> >>
> >
> > How do you install dtbs onto your device? Should be simple enough
> > to run 'mv' on the new filename to the old one?
> >
> 
> it is part of the kernel package

Are you copying the file out of the arch/arm64/boot/dts
directory? Or you're using dtbs_install rule?

> but fixing it in the distro means fixing it in *every* distro..

That assumes every distro has a bootloader that's looking for one
file name vs. the other. And that the distro hasn't updated the
bootloader to pick a different name.

> 
> if we are going for a workaround, then it should be the kernel
> installing a symlink.  Not every distro having to fix things up in the
> same way for one particular board.

There was a discussion about this years ago when the dtbs_install
rule was introduced to the kernel makefiles[1]. Maybe the
sentiment has changed, but it seems that people involved in that
thread didn't consider the filename an ABI. Also, take a look at
commit f4d4ffc03efc ("kbuild: dtbs_install: new make target")
where it says:

"Removed option to call external script. Copying the files should
be sufficient and a build system can post-process the install
directory.  Despite the fact an external script is used for
installing the kernel, I don't think that is a pattern that
should be encouraged. I would rather see buildroot type tools
post process the install directory to rename or move dtb files
after installing to a staging directory."

which makes it look like the distro installation scripts would
rename things if desired.

[1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2013-November/210562.html

-- 
Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of Code Aurora Forum,
a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-04 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-03  9:11 [PATCH 1/2] arm64: qcom: sbc: Name GPIO lines Linus Walleij
2017-10-03  9:11 ` Linus Walleij
2017-10-03  9:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: dts: qcom: Rename SBC to DragonBoard 410c Linus Walleij
2017-10-03  9:11   ` Linus Walleij
2017-10-03 12:25   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2017-10-03 12:25     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2017-10-03 16:37     ` Rob Clark
2017-10-03 16:37       ` Rob Clark
2017-10-03 17:49       ` Nicolas Dechesne
2017-10-03 17:49         ` Nicolas Dechesne
2017-10-03 18:54         ` Rob Clark
2017-10-03 18:54           ` Rob Clark
2017-10-04 21:23           ` Rob Clark
2017-10-04 21:23             ` Rob Clark
2017-10-04 22:09             ` Stephen Boyd
2017-10-04 22:09               ` Stephen Boyd
2017-10-04 22:12               ` Rob Clark
2017-10-04 22:12                 ` Rob Clark
2017-10-04 23:21                 ` Stephen Boyd [this message]
2017-10-04 23:21                   ` Stephen Boyd
2017-10-04 23:49                   ` Rob Clark
2017-10-04 23:49                     ` Rob Clark
2017-10-05 12:54             ` Riku Voipio
2017-10-05 12:54               ` Riku Voipio
2017-10-05 13:06               ` Alexander Graf
2017-10-05 13:06                 ` Alexander Graf
2017-10-06  4:41                 ` Andy Gross
2017-10-06  4:41                   ` Andy Gross
2017-10-03 20:58   ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-10-03 20:58     ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-10-04 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: qcom: sbc: Name GPIO lines Stephen Boyd
2017-10-04 21:45   ` Stephen Boyd

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