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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kari Hiitola <kari@varaani.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Steffen <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>
Subject: Re: Fixing CVE-2017-15361
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:03:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171026170359.v3f7od6hagrt2pv7@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171026170237.6q43xsenbzrw6hi4@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 07:02:37PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:57:48PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:06:02 +0200
> > Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:59:02PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> > > > It does not really matter. People ignore the messages unless looking
> > > > for something specific as you already noticed. Warn seems adequate
> > > > because the cipher is weaker than expected but not known to
> > > > be compromised. People who care can look up the message. People who
> > > > don't care will ignore it even if it's crit.  
> > > 
> > > Is it worth of trouble to do any driver changes then (open question to
> > > everyone)? I'm not sure it is worth of trouble to add cruft to the
> > > driver code for a warning that will likely be ignored anyway.
> > 
> > If the kernel can reliably detect the affected TPMs it saves the
> > user the work of figuring out where the firmware revision is accessible
> > on the running machine and what firmware revisions are affected.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Michal
> 
> Just giving the warning does not require any kernel functionality. If
> nothing proactive is required from the kernel I'd move the
> responsibility to the user space. Nothing in the kernel is broken an
> kernel cannot workaround the issue by ay means.
> 
> /Jarkko

I.e. I'm not going to fix a bug if there is no bug to fix.

/Jarkko

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com (Jarkko Sakkinen)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Fixing CVE-2017-15361
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:03:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171026170359.v3f7od6hagrt2pv7@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171026170237.6q43xsenbzrw6hi4@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 07:02:37PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:57:48PM +0200, Michal Such?nek wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:06:02 +0200
> > Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:59:02PM +0200, Michal Such?nek wrote:
> > > > It does not really matter. People ignore the messages unless looking
> > > > for something specific as you already noticed. Warn seems adequate
> > > > because the cipher is weaker than expected but not known to
> > > > be compromised. People who care can look up the message. People who
> > > > don't care will ignore it even if it's crit.  
> > > 
> > > Is it worth of trouble to do any driver changes then (open question to
> > > everyone)? I'm not sure it is worth of trouble to add cruft to the
> > > driver code for a warning that will likely be ignored anyway.
> > 
> > If the kernel can reliably detect the affected TPMs it saves the
> > user the work of figuring out where the firmware revision is accessible
> > on the running machine and what firmware revisions are affected.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Michal
> 
> Just giving the warning does not require any kernel functionality. If
> nothing proactive is required from the kernel I'd move the
> responsibility to the user space. Nothing in the kernel is broken an
> kernel cannot workaround the issue by ay means.
> 
> /Jarkko

I.e. I'm not going to fix a bug if there is no bug to fix.

/Jarkko
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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kari Hiitola <kari@varaani.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Steffen <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>
Subject: Re: Fixing CVE-2017-15361
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:03:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171026170359.v3f7od6hagrt2pv7@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171026170237.6q43xsenbzrw6hi4@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 07:02:37PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:57:48PM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:06:02 +0200
> > Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:59:02PM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> > > > It does not really matter. People ignore the messages unless looking
> > > > for something specific as you already noticed. Warn seems adequate
> > > > because the cipher is weaker than expected but not known to
> > > > be compromised. People who care can look up the message. People who
> > > > don't care will ignore it even if it's crit.  
> > > 
> > > Is it worth of trouble to do any driver changes then (open question to
> > > everyone)? I'm not sure it is worth of trouble to add cruft to the
> > > driver code for a warning that will likely be ignored anyway.
> > 
> > If the kernel can reliably detect the affected TPMs it saves the
> > user the work of figuring out where the firmware revision is accessible
> > on the running machine and what firmware revisions are affected.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Michal
> 
> Just giving the warning does not require any kernel functionality. If
> nothing proactive is required from the kernel I'd move the
> responsibility to the user space. Nothing in the kernel is broken an
> kernel cannot workaround the issue by ay means.
> 
> /Jarkko

I.e. I'm not going to fix a bug if there is no bug to fix.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-26 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-25 13:44 Fixing CVE-2017-15361 Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 13:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 14:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-25 14:17   ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-25 18:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 18:53     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 20:22     ` Jerry Snitselaar
2017-10-25 20:22       ` Jerry Snitselaar
2017-10-26 11:01       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 11:01         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 22:26     ` Peter Huewe
2017-10-25 22:26       ` Peter Huewe
2017-10-26 11:16       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 11:16         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 11:27         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 11:27           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 12:59         ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 12:59           ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 14:06           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 14:06             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 14:06             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 14:57             ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 14:57               ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 14:57               ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 17:02               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:02                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:02                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:03                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2017-10-26 17:03                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:03                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 15:46         ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-26 15:46           ` Alexander.Steffen at infineon.com
2017-10-26 17:08           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:08             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 15:42     ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-26 15:42       ` Alexander.Steffen at infineon.com
2017-10-26 17:00       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:00         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 15:51     ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-26 15:51       ` Alexander.Steffen at infineon.com
2017-10-26 19:07       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 19:07         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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