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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/17] block: introduce GENHD_FL_HIDDEN
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:38:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171028063825.GA14261@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171024213959.GB23307@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 05:40:00PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> Having the NVme driver go to such lengths to hide its resources from
> upper layers is certainly the work of an evil genius experiencing some
> serious territorial issues.  Not sugar-coating it.. you wouldn't.

I'm pretty surre Hannes will appreciate being called an evil genius :)

> I kept meaning to reply to your earlier iterations on this series to
> ask: can we please get a CONFIG_NVME_MULTIPATHING knob to make it so
> that the NVMe driver doesn't implicitly consume (and hide) all
> per-controler devices?

I thought about adding it, but mostly for a different reason: it's
quite a bit of code, and we now start to see NVMe in deeply embedded
contexts, e.g. the latest Compact Flash spec is based on NVMe, so it
might be a good idea to give people a chance to avoid the overhead.

> Ah well.  There is only one correct way to do NVMe multipathing after
> all right?

I don't think you'll get very useful results, even if you try.  But I
guess we'll just have to tell people to use SuSE if they want NVMe
multipathing to work then :)

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: hch@lst.de (Christoph Hellwig)
Subject: [PATCH 06/17] block: introduce GENHD_FL_HIDDEN
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:38:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171028063825.GA14261@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171024213959.GB23307@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017@05:40:00PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> Having the NVme driver go to such lengths to hide its resources from
> upper layers is certainly the work of an evil genius experiencing some
> serious territorial issues.  Not sugar-coating it.. you wouldn't.

I'm pretty surre Hannes will appreciate being called an evil genius :)

> I kept meaning to reply to your earlier iterations on this series to
> ask: can we please get a CONFIG_NVME_MULTIPATHING knob to make it so
> that the NVMe driver doesn't implicitly consume (and hide) all
> per-controler devices?

I thought about adding it, but mostly for a different reason: it's
quite a bit of code, and we now start to see NVMe in deeply embedded
contexts, e.g. the latest Compact Flash spec is based on NVMe, so it
might be a good idea to give people a chance to avoid the overhead.

> Ah well.  There is only one correct way to do NVMe multipathing after
> all right?

I don't think you'll get very useful results, even if you try.  But I
guess we'll just have to tell people to use SuSE if they want NVMe
multipathing to work then :)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-28  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-23 14:51 nvme multipath support V5 Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 01/17] block: move REQ_NOWAIT Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 02/17] block: add REQ_DRV bit Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 03/17] block: provide a direct_make_request helper Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:05   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:05     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24 17:57   ` Javier González
2017-10-24 17:57     ` Javier González
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 04/17] block: add a blk_steal_bios helper Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:07   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:07     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  8:44   ` Max Gurtovoy
2017-10-24  8:44     ` Max Gurtovoy
2017-10-28  6:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28  6:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 05/17] block: don't look at the struct device dev_t in disk_devt Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:08     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 06/17] block: introduce GENHD_FL_HIDDEN Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:18   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:18     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-28  6:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28  6:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24 21:40   ` Mike Snitzer
2017-10-24 21:40     ` Mike Snitzer
2017-10-28  6:38     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-10-28  6:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28  7:20       ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-28  7:20         ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-28  7:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28  7:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28 10:09           ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-28 10:09             ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-29  8:00             ` Anish Jhaveri
2017-10-29  8:00               ` Anish Jhaveri
2017-10-29  8:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-29  8:57               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28 14:17       ` Mike Snitzer
2017-10-28 14:17         ` Mike Snitzer
2017-10-29 10:01         ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-29 10:01           ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-30  4:09           ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-30  4:09             ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 07/17] block: add a poll_fn callback to struct request_queue Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:20   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:20     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 08/17] nvme: use kref_get_unless_zero in nvme_find_get_ns Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:21     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 09/17] nvme: simplify nvme_open Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:21     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 10/17] nvme: switch controller refcounting to use struct device Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:23   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:23     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 11/17] nvme: get rid of nvme_ctrl_list Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:24   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:24     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 12/17] nvme: check for a live controller in nvme_dev_open Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:25   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:25     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 13/17] nvme: track subsystems Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:33   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:33     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 14/17] nvme: introduce a nvme_ns_ids structure Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:27   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:27     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 15/17] nvme: track shared namespaces Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:34     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 16/17] nvme: implement multipath access to nvme subsystems Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 15:32   ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-23 15:32     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-23 16:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 16:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 17:43   ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-23 17:43     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-24  7:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:43     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-28  6:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28  6:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-30  3:37   ` Guan Junxiong
2017-10-30  3:37     ` Guan Junxiong
2017-11-02 18:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02 18:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51 ` [PATCH 17/17] nvme: also expose the namespace identification sysfs files for mpath nodes Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-23 14:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-24  7:45   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-24  7:45     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-28  6:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-28  6:20       ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-10-18 16:52 nvme multipath support V4 Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-18 16:52 ` [PATCH 06/17] block: introduce GENHD_FL_HIDDEN Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-18 16:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-19  8:31   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-10-19  8:31     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2017-10-19 12:45   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-19 12:45     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-10-19 13:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-19 13:15       ` Christoph Hellwig

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