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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
Cc: Toshiaki Makita <makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Sarah Newman <srn@prgmr.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: bridge: add max_fdb_count
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:54:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171116085413.3f23a7d6@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJieiUjL=oeC7MTj4FfDxa35cC=vMEdFRR8ocGQoPqeaY6TCtw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:20:23 -0800
Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Toshiaki Makita
> <makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > On 2017/11/16 13:54, Sarah Newman wrote:  
> >> On 11/15/2017 08:05 PM, Toshiaki Makita wrote:  
> >>> On 2017/11/16 11:25, Andrew Lunn wrote:  
> >>>>> Also what do the vendors using bridge for L2 offload to switch think?  
> >>>>
> >>>> The Marvell L2 switches which DSA supports have 8K FDB/MDB entries. So
> >>>> maybe 1024 is a bit low?  
> >>>
> >>> How about U32_MAX by default since it is currently not restricted.
> >>> (assuming the field will be changed to u32 as per Stephen's feedback).
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise users may suffer from unexpected behavior change by updating
> >>> kernel?
> >>>  
> >>
> >> U32_MAX seems like much too high a default to be helpful to a typical user. How many devices are realistically on a single bridge in the wild? Double
> >> that seems like a reasonable default.  
> >
> > I'm suggesting the most unrealistic number to essentially disable the
> > restriction by default.
> > My understanding is that we put a priority on not to break existing
> > users even if the new restriction looks reasonable for most people.  
> 
> +1 , and yes, 1024 is very low. some of the switches we use support
> around 128K FDB entries and we have seen that number increase fairly
> quickly in newer generation switches. Default should be no limit to
> not break existing users.

New features can not break existing users.

My recommendation would be that 0 be used as a magic value to indicate
no limit and that would be the default.

Also the limit should be controllable on a per port of bridge (interface) basis.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-16 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-15 19:27 [PATCH] net: bridge: add max_fdb_count Sarah Newman
2017-11-15 19:43 ` Sarah Newman
2017-11-15 20:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-16  2:25   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-11-16  4:05     ` Toshiaki Makita
2017-11-16  4:54       ` Sarah Newman
2017-11-16  6:13         ` Toshiaki Makita
2017-11-16  6:20           ` Roopa Prabhu
2017-11-16 16:54             ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2017-11-15 21:34 ` Egil Hjelmeland
2017-11-16  3:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-11-16  7:31 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-11-16  9:20   ` Sarah Newman
2017-11-16  9:49     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-11-16  9:58     ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-16 18:23       ` Sarah Newman
2017-11-16 19:23         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-11-16 19:36           ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-11-16 20:54             ` Sarah Newman
2017-11-16 20:21           ` Vincent Bernat
2017-11-17  0:27             ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-17  5:26               ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-17  6:14                 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-11-17  8:01                   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-11-17 14:06                 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-11-17 18:44                   ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-21 14:53 ` David Laight

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