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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] virtio_net: allow hypervisor to indicate linkspeed and duplex setting
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 02:10:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171221020623-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adddd3e4-4e1a-d455-02cf-c58aef504abd@akamai.com>

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 04:32:52PM -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/20/2017 12:52 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/20/2017 09:57 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 02:33:53PM -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
> >>>> If the hypervisor exports the link and duplex speed, let's use that instead
> >>>> of the default unknown speed. The user can still overwrite it later if
> >>>> desired via: 'ethtool -s'. This allows the hypervisor to set the default
> >>>> link speed and duplex setting without requiring guest changes and is
> >>>> consistent with how other network drivers operate. We ran into some cases
> >>>> where the guest software was failing due to a lack of linkspeed and had to
> >>>> fall back to a fully emulated network device that does export a linkspeed
> >>>> and duplex setting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Implement by adding a new VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX feature flag, to
> >>>> indicate that a linkspeed and duplex setting are present.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
> >>>> Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
> >>>> Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  drivers/net/virtio_net.c        | 11 ++++++++++-
> >>>>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h |  4 ++++
> >>>>  2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>>> index 6fb7b65..e7a2ad6 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>>> @@ -2671,6 +2671,14 @@ static int virtnet_probe(struct virtio_device *vdev)
> >>>>  	netif_set_real_num_rx_queues(dev, vi->curr_queue_pairs);
> >>>>  
> >>>>  	virtnet_init_settings(dev);
> >>>> +	if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX)) {
> >>>> +		vi->speed = virtio_cread32(vdev,
> >>>> +					offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
> >>>> +					speed));
> >>>> +		vi->duplex = virtio_cread8(vdev,
> >>>> +					offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
> >>>> +					duplex));
> >>>> +	}
> >>>>  
> >>>>  	err = register_netdev(dev);
> >>>>  	if (err) {
> >>>
> >>> How are we going to validate speed values? Imagine host
> >>> using a new 1000Gbit device and exposing that to guest.
> >>>
> >>> Need to think what do we want guest to do.
> >>> I think that ideally we'd say it's a 100Gbit device.
> >>>
> >>> For duplex, force to one of 3 valid values?
> >>
> >> So I didn't provide validation here b/c as you point out its not clear
> >> how we would validate it. I don't believe h/w drivers do any validation
> >> here either.
> > 
> > Right but hardware tends not to change as quickly as the hypervisors :)
> > For virtual device drivers, we need some way to handle forward
> > compatibility since hypervisors do change quite quickly.
> > 
> >> They simply propagate the value from the the underlying
> >> device. So that seemed reasonable to me.
> >>
> >> Why do you divide by 10 in the above example? Would you propose always
> >> dividing what the device reports by 10?
> > 
> > No, that was just an example. I was just suggesting rounding down to
> > next valid known speed.
> 
> I see, but virtio currently uses ethtool_validate_speed() which allows
> arbitrary values up to INT_MAX in units of Mbps. That seems to leave
> plenty of headroom. So I could use that function for validation as well
> as well as ethtool_validate_duplex() and if they fail fall back to
> SPEED_UNKNOWN and DUPLEX_UNKNOWN?

Sounds good.

> > 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> @@ -2796,7 +2804,8 @@ static struct virtio_device_id id_table[] = {
> >>>>  	VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_RX, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VLAN, \
> >>>>  	VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_ANNOUNCE, VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ, \
> >>>>  	VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR, \
> >>>> -	VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS
> >>>> +	VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS, \
> >>>> +	VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX
> >>>>  
> >>>>  static unsigned int features[] = {
> >>>>  	VIRTNET_FEATURES,
> >>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >>>> index fc353b5..acfcf68 100644
> >>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >>>> @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_CSUM	1	/* Guest handles pkts w/ partial csum */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS 2 /* Dynamic offload configuration. */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU	3	/* Initial MTU advice */
> >>>> +#define VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX 4	/* Host set linkspeed and duplex */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_MAC	5	/* Host has given MAC address. */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_TSO4	7	/* Guest can handle TSOv4 in. */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_TSO6	8	/* Guest can handle TSOv6 in. */
> >>>
> >>> I think I'd prefer a high feature bit - low bits are ones that can
> >>> be backported to legacy interfaces, so I think we should hang on to
> >>> these for fixing issues that break communication completely (like the
> >>> mtu).
> >>>
> >>
> >> So I went with a low bit here b/c in the virtio spec 'section 2.2
> >> Feature Bits':
> >>
> >>
> >>  0 to 23
> >>     Feature bits for the specific device type
> >> 24 to 32
> >>     Feature bits reserved for extensions to the queue and feature
> >> negotiation mechanisms
> >> 33 and above
> >>     Feature bits reserved for future extensions.
> >>
> >> So virtio_net already goes up to 23 (but omits 4 and 6), and I wasn't
> >> sure if it was reasonable to use the higher bits. It looks like the code
> >> would handle the higher bits ok, so I can try that - bit 33 perhaps ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Jason
> > 
> > 
> > Transports started from bit 24 and are growing up.
> > So I would say devices should start from bit 63 and grow down.
> >
> 
> Ok, I will use 63.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Jason
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH net-next 1/2] virtio_net: allow hypervisor to indicate linkspeed and duplex setting
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 02:10:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171221020623-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adddd3e4-4e1a-d455-02cf-c58aef504abd@akamai.com>

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 04:32:52PM -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/20/2017 12:52 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/20/2017 09:57 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 02:33:53PM -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
> >>>> If the hypervisor exports the link and duplex speed, let's use that instead
> >>>> of the default unknown speed. The user can still overwrite it later if
> >>>> desired via: 'ethtool -s'. This allows the hypervisor to set the default
> >>>> link speed and duplex setting without requiring guest changes and is
> >>>> consistent with how other network drivers operate. We ran into some cases
> >>>> where the guest software was failing due to a lack of linkspeed and had to
> >>>> fall back to a fully emulated network device that does export a linkspeed
> >>>> and duplex setting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Implement by adding a new VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX feature flag, to
> >>>> indicate that a linkspeed and duplex setting are present.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
> >>>> Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
> >>>> Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  drivers/net/virtio_net.c        | 11 ++++++++++-
> >>>>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h |  4 ++++
> >>>>  2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>>> index 6fb7b65..e7a2ad6 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >>>> @@ -2671,6 +2671,14 @@ static int virtnet_probe(struct virtio_device *vdev)
> >>>>  	netif_set_real_num_rx_queues(dev, vi->curr_queue_pairs);
> >>>>  
> >>>>  	virtnet_init_settings(dev);
> >>>> +	if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX)) {
> >>>> +		vi->speed = virtio_cread32(vdev,
> >>>> +					offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
> >>>> +					speed));
> >>>> +		vi->duplex = virtio_cread8(vdev,
> >>>> +					offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
> >>>> +					duplex));
> >>>> +	}
> >>>>  
> >>>>  	err = register_netdev(dev);
> >>>>  	if (err) {
> >>>
> >>> How are we going to validate speed values? Imagine host
> >>> using a new 1000Gbit device and exposing that to guest.
> >>>
> >>> Need to think what do we want guest to do.
> >>> I think that ideally we'd say it's a 100Gbit device.
> >>>
> >>> For duplex, force to one of 3 valid values?
> >>
> >> So I didn't provide validation here b/c as you point out its not clear
> >> how we would validate it. I don't believe h/w drivers do any validation
> >> here either.
> > 
> > Right but hardware tends not to change as quickly as the hypervisors :)
> > For virtual device drivers, we need some way to handle forward
> > compatibility since hypervisors do change quite quickly.
> > 
> >> They simply propagate the value from the the underlying
> >> device. So that seemed reasonable to me.
> >>
> >> Why do you divide by 10 in the above example? Would you propose always
> >> dividing what the device reports by 10?
> > 
> > No, that was just an example. I was just suggesting rounding down to
> > next valid known speed.
> 
> I see, but virtio currently uses ethtool_validate_speed() which allows
> arbitrary values up to INT_MAX in units of Mbps. That seems to leave
> plenty of headroom. So I could use that function for validation as well
> as well as ethtool_validate_duplex() and if they fail fall back to
> SPEED_UNKNOWN and DUPLEX_UNKNOWN?

Sounds good.

> > 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> @@ -2796,7 +2804,8 @@ static struct virtio_device_id id_table[] = {
> >>>>  	VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_RX, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VLAN, \
> >>>>  	VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_ANNOUNCE, VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ, \
> >>>>  	VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR, \
> >>>> -	VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS
> >>>> +	VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS, \
> >>>> +	VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX
> >>>>  
> >>>>  static unsigned int features[] = {
> >>>>  	VIRTNET_FEATURES,
> >>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >>>> index fc353b5..acfcf68 100644
> >>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >>>> @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_CSUM	1	/* Guest handles pkts w/ partial csum */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS 2 /* Dynamic offload configuration. */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU	3	/* Initial MTU advice */
> >>>> +#define VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX 4	/* Host set linkspeed and duplex */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_MAC	5	/* Host has given MAC address. */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_TSO4	7	/* Guest can handle TSOv4 in. */
> >>>>  #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_TSO6	8	/* Guest can handle TSOv6 in. */
> >>>
> >>> I think I'd prefer a high feature bit - low bits are ones that can
> >>> be backported to legacy interfaces, so I think we should hang on to
> >>> these for fixing issues that break communication completely (like the
> >>> mtu).
> >>>
> >>
> >> So I went with a low bit here b/c in the virtio spec 'section 2.2
> >> Feature Bits':
> >>
> >>
> >>  0 to 23
> >>     Feature bits for the specific device type
> >> 24 to 32
> >>     Feature bits reserved for extensions to the queue and feature
> >> negotiation mechanisms
> >> 33 and above
> >>     Feature bits reserved for future extensions.
> >>
> >> So virtio_net already goes up to 23 (but omits 4 and 6), and I wasn't
> >> sure if it was reasonable to use the higher bits. It looks like the code
> >> would handle the higher bits ok, so I can try that - bit 33 perhaps ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Jason
> > 
> > 
> > Transports started from bit 24 and are growing up.
> > So I would say devices should start from bit 63 and grow down.
> >
> 
> Ok, I will use 63.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Jason
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-21  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-14 19:33 [PATCH 0/2] virtio_net: allow hypervisor to indicate linkspeed and duplex setting Jason Baron
2017-12-14 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Baron
2017-12-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] qemu: add linkspeed and duplex setting to virtio-net Jason Baron
2017-12-14 19:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Baron
2017-12-18 11:34   ` Yan Vugenfirer
2017-12-18 11:34     ` Yan Vugenfirer
2017-12-18 16:04     ` Jason Baron
2017-12-19  9:19       ` Yan Vugenfirer
2017-12-19 16:52         ` Jason Baron
2017-12-20 14:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 14:32             ` Yan Vugenfirer
2017-12-20 14:33             ` Yan Vugenfirer
2017-12-21 19:42               ` Jason Baron
2017-12-21 20:40                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] virtio_net: allow hypervisor to indicate linkspeed and duplex setting Jason Baron
2017-12-14 19:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Baron
2017-12-14 20:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 20:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 14:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 14:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 17:07     ` Jason Baron
2017-12-20 17:07       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Baron
2017-12-20 17:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 17:52         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 21:32         ` Jason Baron
2017-12-20 21:32           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Baron
2017-12-21  0:10           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-12-21  0:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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