From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@wdc.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:03:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180118170353.GB19734@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2e5b7e6-ce4b-6053-adae-63cc44d773af@wdc.com>
On Thu, Jan 18 2018 at 11:50am -0500,
Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@wdc.com> wrote:
> On 01/17/18 18:41, Ming Lei wrote:
> >BLK_STS_RESOURCE can be returned from driver when any resource
> >is running out of. And the resource may not be related with tags,
> >such as kmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC), when queue is idle under this kind of
> >BLK_STS_RESOURCE, restart can't work any more, then IO hang may
> >be caused.
> >
> >Most of drivers may call kmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC) in IO path, and almost
> >all returns BLK_STS_RESOURCE under this situation. But for dm-mpath,
> >it may be triggered a bit easier since the request pool of underlying
> >queue may be consumed up much easier. But in reality, it is still not
> >easy to trigger it. I run all kinds of test on dm-mpath/scsi-debug
> >with all kinds of scsi_debug parameters, can't trigger this issue
> >at all. But finally it is triggered in Bart's SRP test, which seems
> >made by genius, :-)
> >
> >[ ... ]
> >
> > static void blk_mq_timeout_work(struct work_struct *work)
> > {
> > struct request_queue *q =
> >@@ -966,8 +1045,10 @@ static void blk_mq_timeout_work(struct work_struct *work)
> > */
> > queue_for_each_hw_ctx(q, hctx, i) {
> > /* the hctx may be unmapped, so check it here */
> >- if (blk_mq_hw_queue_mapped(hctx))
> >+ if (blk_mq_hw_queue_mapped(hctx)) {
> > blk_mq_tag_idle(hctx);
> >+ blk_mq_fixup_restart(hctx);
> >+ }
> > }
> > }
> > blk_queue_exit(q);
>
> Hello Ming,
>
> My comments about the above are as follows:
> - It can take up to q->rq_timeout jiffies after a .queue_rq()
> implementation returned BLK_STS_RESOURCE before blk_mq_timeout_work()
> gets called. However, it can happen that only a few milliseconds after
> .queue_rq() returned BLK_STS_RESOURCE that the condition that caused
> it to return BLK_STS_RESOURCE gets cleared. So the above approach can
> result in long delays during which it will seem like the queue got
> stuck. Additionally, I think that the block driver should decide how
> long it takes before a queue is rerun and not the block layer core.
So configure q->rq_timeout to be shorter? Which is configurable though
blk_mq_tag_set's 'timeout' member. It apparently defaults to 30 * HZ.
That is the problem with timeouts, there is generally no one size fits
all.
> - The lockup that I reported only occurs with the dm driver but not any
> other block driver. So why to modify the block layer core since this
> can be fixed by modifying the dm driver?
Hard to know it is only DM's blk-mq that is impacted. That is the only
blk-mq driver that you're testing like this (that is also able to handle
faults, etc).
> - A much simpler fix and a fix that is known to work exists, namely
> inserting a blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue() call in the dm driver.
Because your "much simpler" fix actively hurts performance, as is
detailed in this header:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/device-mapper/linux-dm.git/commit/?h=dm-4.16&id=ec3eaf9a673106f66606896aed6ddd20180b02ec
I'm not going to take your bandaid fix given it very much seems to be
papering over a real blk-mq issue.
Mike
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@wdc.com>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:03:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180118170353.GB19734@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2e5b7e6-ce4b-6053-adae-63cc44d773af@wdc.com>
On Thu, Jan 18 2018 at 11:50am -0500,
Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@wdc.com> wrote:
> On 01/17/18 18:41, Ming Lei wrote:
> >BLK_STS_RESOURCE can be returned from driver when any resource
> >is running out of. And the resource may not be related with tags,
> >such as kmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC), when queue is idle under this kind of
> >BLK_STS_RESOURCE, restart can't work any more, then IO hang may
> >be caused.
> >
> >Most of drivers may call kmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC) in IO path, and almost
> >all returns BLK_STS_RESOURCE under this situation. But for dm-mpath,
> >it may be triggered a bit easier since the request pool of underlying
> >queue may be consumed up much easier. But in reality, it is still not
> >easy to trigger it. I run all kinds of test on dm-mpath/scsi-debug
> >with all kinds of scsi_debug parameters, can't trigger this issue
> >at all. But finally it is triggered in Bart's SRP test, which seems
> >made by genius, :-)
> >
> >[ ... ]
> >
> > static void blk_mq_timeout_work(struct work_struct *work)
> > {
> > struct request_queue *q =
> >@@ -966,8 +1045,10 @@ static void blk_mq_timeout_work(struct work_struct *work)
> > */
> > queue_for_each_hw_ctx(q, hctx, i) {
> > /* the hctx may be unmapped, so check it here */
> >- if (blk_mq_hw_queue_mapped(hctx))
> >+ if (blk_mq_hw_queue_mapped(hctx)) {
> > blk_mq_tag_idle(hctx);
> >+ blk_mq_fixup_restart(hctx);
> >+ }
> > }
> > }
> > blk_queue_exit(q);
>
> Hello Ming,
>
> My comments about the above are as follows:
> - It can take up to q->rq_timeout jiffies after a .queue_rq()
> implementation returned BLK_STS_RESOURCE before blk_mq_timeout_work()
> gets called. However, it can happen that only a few milliseconds after
> .queue_rq() returned BLK_STS_RESOURCE that the condition that caused
> it to return BLK_STS_RESOURCE gets cleared. So the above approach can
> result in long delays during which it will seem like the queue got
> stuck. Additionally, I think that the block driver should decide how
> long it takes before a queue is rerun and not the block layer core.
So configure q->rq_timeout to be shorter? Which is configurable though
blk_mq_tag_set's 'timeout' member. It apparently defaults to 30 * HZ.
That is the problem with timeouts, there is generally no one size fits
all.
> - The lockup that I reported only occurs with the dm driver but not any
> other block driver. So why to modify the block layer core since this
> can be fixed by modifying the dm driver?
Hard to know it is only DM's blk-mq that is impacted. That is the only
blk-mq driver that you're testing like this (that is also able to handle
faults, etc).
> - A much simpler fix and a fix that is known to work exists, namely
> inserting a blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue() call in the dm driver.
Because your "much simpler" fix actively hurts performance, as is
detailed in this header:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/device-mapper/linux-dm.git/commit/?h=dm-4.16&id=ec3eaf9a673106f66606896aed6ddd20180b02ec
I'm not going to take your bandaid fix given it very much seems to be
papering over a real blk-mq issue.
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-18 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-18 2:41 [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle Ming Lei
2018-01-18 16:50 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 17:03 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2018-01-18 17:03 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 17:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 17:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 18:30 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 18:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 18:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 20:11 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-18 20:11 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-18 20:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 20:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 20:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 21:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 21:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 21:37 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 21:39 ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 21:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 21:45 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 21:45 ` [dm-devel] " Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:01 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-18 22:18 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:20 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:20 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:24 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:24 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:35 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-01-18 22:39 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-18 22:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-18 22:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-23 9:22 ` [PATCH] block: neutralize blk_insert_cloned_request IO stall regression (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle) Mike Snitzer
2018-01-23 10:53 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-23 12:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-23 12:17 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-23 12:43 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-23 16:43 ` [PATCH] " Bart Van Assche
2018-01-23 16:43 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 2:32 ` [RFC PATCH] blk-mq: fixup RESTART when queue becomes idle Ming Lei
2018-01-19 4:02 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 7:26 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 15:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 15:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 15:25 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 15:33 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 16:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 15:24 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 15:40 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 15:40 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 15:48 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:05 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:19 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:26 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:27 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:37 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 16:41 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:41 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:47 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-19 16:52 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 17:05 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 17:09 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 17:20 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 17:38 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 18:24 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 18:24 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 18:33 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-19 23:52 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-20 4:27 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 16:13 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-01-19 16:23 ` Jens Axboe
2018-01-19 23:57 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-29 22:37 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 5:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 5:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 7:34 ` Ming Lei
2018-01-19 19:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-19 19:47 ` Bart Van Assche
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