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From: Simon Guo <wei.guo.simon@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Transaction memory support on PR KVM
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:10:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180127131011.GA2521@simonLocalRHEL7.x64> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180123053832.GA3924@fergus.ozlabs.ibm.com>

Hi Paul,
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 04:38:32PM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 06:11:13PM +0800, wei.guo.simon@gmail.com wrote:
> > From: Simon Guo <wei.guo.simon@gmail.com>
> > 
> > In current days, many OS distributions have utilized transaction
> > memory functionality. In PowerPC, HV KVM supports TM. But PR KVM
> > does not.
> > 
> > The drive for the transaction memory support of PR KVM is the
> > openstack Continuous Integration testing - They runs a HV(hypervisor)
> > KVM(as level 1) and then run PR KVM(as level 2) on top of that.
> > 
> > This patch set add transaction memory support on PR KVM.
> 
> Thanks for the patch set.  It mostly looks good, though I have some
> comments on the individual patches.
> 
> I don't see where you are implementing support for userspace accessing
> the TM checkpointed register values using the GET_ONE_REG/SET_ONE_REG
> API.  This would mean that you couldn't migrate a guest that was in
> the middle of a transaction.  We will need to have the one_reg API
> access to the TM checkpoint implemented, though there will be a
> difficulty in that kvmppc_get_one_reg() and kvmppc_set_one_reg() are
> called with the vcpu context loaded.  With your scheme of having the
> TM checkpoint stored in the CPU while the vcpu context is loaded, the
> values you want to access in kvmppc_get/set_one_reg are inaccessible
> since they're stored in the CPU.  You would have to arrange for
> kvmppc_get/set_one_reg to be called without the vcpu context loaded
> (recent patches in the kvm next branch probably make that easier) or
> else explicitly unload and reload the vcpu context in those functions.
> (This is easier in HV KVM since the checkpoint is not in the CPU at
> the point of doing kvmppc_get/set_one_reg.)
Thanks for point it out. I didn't think about it before and will 
investigate. 

I plan to work out this PR KVM HTM kvmppc_get/set_one_reg() 
(and the KVM_SET_REGS you mentioned in another mail) with seperate 
patch/patch set, so that the reworked V2 of current patches can be 
sent out in parallel. In case it is not appropriate for you, please 
let me know.

> 
> There is also complexity added because it's possible for the guest to
> have TM, FP, VEC and VSX all enabled from its point of view but to
> have FP/VEC/VSX not actually enabled in the hardware when the guest is
> running.  As you note in your patch descriptions, this means that the
> guest can do tbegin and create a checkpoint with bogus values for the
> FP/VEC/VSX registers.  Rather than trying to detect and fix up this
> situation after the fact, I would suggest that if the guest has TM
> enabled then we make sure that the real FP/VEC/VSX bits in the MSR
> match what the guest thinks it has.  That way we would avoid the bogus
> checkpoint problem.  (There is still the possibility of getting bogus
> checkpointed FP/VEC/VSX registers if the guest does tbegin with the
> FP/VEC/VSX bits clear in the MSR, but that is the guest's problem to
> deal with.)
Good idea. I will look into kvmppc_set_msr_pr() / kvmppc_giveup_ext()
to simplify the solution.

Thanks for your review and time.

BR,
- Simon

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From: Simon Guo <wei.guo.simon@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Transaction memory support on PR KVM
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:10:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180127131011.GA2521@simonLocalRHEL7.x64> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180123053832.GA3924@fergus.ozlabs.ibm.com>

Hi Paul,
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 04:38:32PM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 06:11:13PM +0800, wei.guo.simon@gmail.com wrote:
> > From: Simon Guo <wei.guo.simon@gmail.com>
> > 
> > In current days, many OS distributions have utilized transaction
> > memory functionality. In PowerPC, HV KVM supports TM. But PR KVM
> > does not.
> > 
> > The drive for the transaction memory support of PR KVM is the
> > openstack Continuous Integration testing - They runs a HV(hypervisor)
> > KVM(as level 1) and then run PR KVM(as level 2) on top of that.
> > 
> > This patch set add transaction memory support on PR KVM.
> 
> Thanks for the patch set.  It mostly looks good, though I have some
> comments on the individual patches.
> 
> I don't see where you are implementing support for userspace accessing
> the TM checkpointed register values using the GET_ONE_REG/SET_ONE_REG
> API.  This would mean that you couldn't migrate a guest that was in
> the middle of a transaction.  We will need to have the one_reg API
> access to the TM checkpoint implemented, though there will be a
> difficulty in that kvmppc_get_one_reg() and kvmppc_set_one_reg() are
> called with the vcpu context loaded.  With your scheme of having the
> TM checkpoint stored in the CPU while the vcpu context is loaded, the
> values you want to access in kvmppc_get/set_one_reg are inaccessible
> since they're stored in the CPU.  You would have to arrange for
> kvmppc_get/set_one_reg to be called without the vcpu context loaded
> (recent patches in the kvm next branch probably make that easier) or
> else explicitly unload and reload the vcpu context in those functions.
> (This is easier in HV KVM since the checkpoint is not in the CPU at
> the point of doing kvmppc_get/set_one_reg.)
Thanks for point it out. I didn't think about it before and will 
investigate. 

I plan to work out this PR KVM HTM kvmppc_get/set_one_reg() 
(and the KVM_SET_REGS you mentioned in another mail) with seperate 
patch/patch set, so that the reworked V2 of current patches can be 
sent out in parallel. In case it is not appropriate for you, please 
let me know.

> 
> There is also complexity added because it's possible for the guest to
> have TM, FP, VEC and VSX all enabled from its point of view but to
> have FP/VEC/VSX not actually enabled in the hardware when the guest is
> running.  As you note in your patch descriptions, this means that the
> guest can do tbegin and create a checkpoint with bogus values for the
> FP/VEC/VSX registers.  Rather than trying to detect and fix up this
> situation after the fact, I would suggest that if the guest has TM
> enabled then we make sure that the real FP/VEC/VSX bits in the MSR
> match what the guest thinks it has.  That way we would avoid the bogus
> checkpoint problem.  (There is still the possibility of getting bogus
> checkpointed FP/VEC/VSX registers if the guest does tbegin with the
> FP/VEC/VSX bits clear in the MSR, but that is the guest's problem to
> deal with.)
Good idea. I will look into kvmppc_set_msr_pr() / kvmppc_giveup_ext()
to simplify the solution.

Thanks for your review and time.

BR,
- Simon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-27 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11 10:11 [PATCH 00/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Transaction memory support on PR KVM wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 01/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Move kvmppc_save_tm/kvmppc_restore_tm to separate file wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 02/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add new parameter (guest MSR) for kvmppc_save_tm()/kvmppc_restore wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` [PATCH 02/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add new parameter (guest MSR) for kvmppc_save_tm()/kvmppc_restore_tm() wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  5:42   ` [PATCH 02/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add new parameter (guest MSR) for kvmppc_save_tm()/kvmppc_res Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  5:42     ` [PATCH 02/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add new parameter (guest MSR) for kvmppc_save_tm()/kvmppc_restore_tm() Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  2:33     ` [PATCH 02/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add new parameter (guest MSR) for kvmppc_save_tm()/kvmppc_res Simon Guo
2018-01-30  2:33       ` [PATCH 02/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add new parameter (guest MSR) for kvmppc_save_tm()/kvmppc_restore_tm() Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 03/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: turn on FP/VSX/VMX MSR bits in kvmppc_save_tm() wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 04/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add C function wrapper for _kvmppc_save/restore_tm() wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  5:49   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  5:49     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  2:38     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  2:38       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 05/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: In PR KVM suspends Transactional state when inject an interrupt wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 06/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: PR KVM pass through MSR TM/TS bits to shadow_msr wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 07/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add TEXASR related macros wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  5:50   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  5:50     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 08/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Sync TM bits to shadow msr for problem state guest wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 09/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: implement RFID TM behavior to suppress change from S0 to N0 wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 10/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: set MSR HV bit accordingly for PPC970 and others wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  5:51   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  5:51     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 11/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: prevent TS bits change in kvmppc_interrupt_pr() wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 12/26] powerpc: export symbol msr_check_and_set() wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds new kvmppc_copyto_vcpu_tm/kvmppc_copyfrom_vcpu_tm API for PR wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds new kvmppc_copyto_vcpu_tm/kvmppc_copyfrom_vcpu_tm API for PR KVM wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  5:52   ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds new kvmppc_copyto_vcpu_tm/kvmppc_copyfrom_vcpu_tm API fo Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  5:52     ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds new kvmppc_copyto_vcpu_tm/kvmppc_copyfrom_vcpu_tm API for PR KVM Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  2:15     ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds new kvmppc_copyto_vcpu_tm/kvmppc_copyfrom_vcpu_tm API fo Simon Guo
2018-01-30  2:15       ` [PATCH 13/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds new kvmppc_copyto_vcpu_tm/kvmppc_copyfrom_vcpu_tm API for PR KVM Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 14/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: export tm_enable()/tm_disable/tm_abort() APIs wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 15/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add kvmppc_save/restore_tm_sprs() APIs wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 16/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add transaction memory save/restore skeleton for PR KVM wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  6:04   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  6:04     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  2:57     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  2:57       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 17/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add math support for PR KVM HTM wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  7:29   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  7:29     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:00     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:00       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 18/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: make mtspr/mfspr emulation behavior based on active TM SPRs wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  8:17   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  8:17     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:02     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:02       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 19/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: always fail transaction in guest privilege state wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  8:30   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  8:30     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:11     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:11       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 20/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: enable NV reg restore for reading TM SPR at " wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  9:08   ` [PATCH 20/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: enable NV reg restore for reading TM SPR at guest privilege s Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  9:08     ` [PATCH 20/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: enable NV reg restore for reading TM SPR at guest privilege state Paul Mackerras
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 21/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: adds emulation for treclaim wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  9:23   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  9:23     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:18     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:18       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 22/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add emulation for trechkpt in PR KVM wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  9:36   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  9:36     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:13     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:13       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 23/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add emulation for tabort. for privilege guest wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-23  9:44   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  9:44     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:24     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:24       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 24/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add guard code to prevent returning to guest with PR=0 and Transa wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` [PATCH 24/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: add guard code to prevent returning to guest with PR=0 and Transactional state wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 25/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Support TAR handling for PR KVM HTM wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-24  4:02   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-24  4:02     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-30  3:26     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-30  3:26       ` Simon Guo
2018-01-11 10:11 ` [PATCH 26/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: enable HTM for PR KVM for KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION ioctl wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 10:11   ` wei.guo.simon
2018-01-11 13:56 ` [PATCH 00/26] KVM: PPC: Book3S PR: Transaction memory support on PR KVM Gustavo Romero
2018-01-11 13:56   ` Gustavo Romero
2018-01-11 22:04   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-01-11 22:04     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-01-12  2:41   ` Simon Guo
2018-01-12  2:41     ` Simon Guo
2018-01-23  5:38 ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  5:38   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  7:16   ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-23  7:16     ` Paul Mackerras
2018-01-27 13:10   ` Simon Guo [this message]
2018-01-27 13:10     ` Simon Guo

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