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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Use a recently used CPU as an idle candidate and the basis for SIS
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 12:50:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180130115054.GA2269@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180130104555.4125-5-mgorman@techsingularity.net>

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:45:55AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> The select_idle_sibling (SIS) rewrite in commit 10e2f1acd010 ("sched/core:
> Rewrite and improve select_idle_siblings()") replaced a domain iteration
> with a search that broadly speaking does a wrapped walk of the scheduler
> domain sharing a last-level-cache. While this had a number of improvements,
> one consequence is that two tasks that share a waker/wakee relationship push
> each other around a socket. Even though two tasks may be active, all cores
> are evenly used. This is great from a search perspective and spreads a load
> across individual cores but it has adverse consequences for cpufreq. As each
> CPU has relatively low utilisation, cpufreq may decide the utilisation is
> too low to used a higher P-state and overall computation throughput suffers.

> While individual cpufreq and cpuidle drivers may compensate by artifically
> boosting P-state (at c0) or avoiding lower C-states (during idle), it does
> not help if hardware-based cpufreq (e.g. HWP) is used.

Not saying this patch is bad; but Rafael / Srinivas we really should do
better. Why isn't cpufreq (esp. sugov) fixing this? HWP or not, we can
still give it hints, and it looks like we're not doing that.

Mel, what hardware are you testing this on?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-30 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-30 10:45 [PATCH 0/4] Reduce migrations and unnecessary spreading of load to multiple CPUs Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 10:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Remove unnecessary parameters from wake_affine_idle Mel Gorman
2018-02-06 11:55   ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched/fair: Remove unnecessary parameters from wake_affine_idle() tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 10:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: Restructure wake_affine to return a CPU id Mel Gorman
2018-02-06 11:56   ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched/fair: Restructure wake_affine*() " tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 10:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Do not migrate if the prev_cpu is idle Mel Gorman
2018-02-06 11:56   ` [tip:sched/urgent] " tip-bot for Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 10:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Use a recently used CPU as an idle candidate and the basis for SIS Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 11:50   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-01-30 12:57     ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 13:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 13:25         ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 13:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 14:06             ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-31  9:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-31 10:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31 11:54             ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-31 17:44             ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-02-01  9:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-01  7:50             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-01  9:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-01 13:18                 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-02-02 11:00                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-02 14:54                     ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-02-02 19:48                       ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-02 20:01                         ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-02-05 11:10                           ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-05 17:04                             ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-02-05 17:50                               ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-04  8:42                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-04  8:38                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-02 11:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-02 12:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 12:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 14:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-03 16:30                       ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-02-05 10:44                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-05 10:58                           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-02 12:58                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 13:27                   ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 13:15       ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-30 13:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 13:35           ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-30 11:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 12:59     ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-30 13:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 13:18       ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-06 11:56   ` [tip:sched/urgent] " tip-bot for Mel Gorman

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