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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, mingo@redhat.com, cl@linux.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, rao.shoaib@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Transform kfree_rcu() into kvfree_rcu()
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:55:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222235532.GA11181@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180207181055.GB12446@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 10:10:55AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 05:45:13PM +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:57:00 -0500
> > Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > > To me kvfree() is a special case and should not be used by RCU as a
> > > generic function. That would make RCU and MM much more coupled than
> > > necessary.
> > 
> > For the record, I fully agree with Steve here. 
> > 
> > And being a performance "fanatic" I don't like to have the extra branch
> > (and compares) in the free code path... but it's a MM-decision (and
> > sometimes you should not listen to "fanatics" ;-))
> 
> While free_rcu() is not withut its performance requirements, I think it's
> currently dominated by cache misses and not by branches.  By the time RCU
> gets to run callbacks, memory is certainly L1/L2 cache-cold and probably
> L3 cache-cold.  Also calling the callback functions is utterly impossible
> for the branch predictor.

This seems to have fallen by the wayside.

To get things going again, I suggest starting out by simply replacing
the kfree() in __rcu_reclaim() with kvfree().  If desired, a kvfree_rcu()
can also be defined as a synonym for kfree_rcu().

This gets us a very simple and small patch which provides the ability
to dispose of kvmalloc() memory after a grace period.

								Thanx, Paul

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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, mingo@redhat.com, cl@linux.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, rao.shoaib@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Transform kfree_rcu() into kvfree_rcu()
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:55:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222235532.GA11181@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180207181055.GB12446@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 10:10:55AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 05:45:13PM +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:57:00 -0500
> > Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > > To me kvfree() is a special case and should not be used by RCU as a
> > > generic function. That would make RCU and MM much more coupled than
> > > necessary.
> > 
> > For the record, I fully agree with Steve here. 
> > 
> > And being a performance "fanatic" I don't like to have the extra branch
> > (and compares) in the free code path... but it's a MM-decision (and
> > sometimes you should not listen to "fanatics" ;-))
> 
> While free_rcu() is not withut its performance requirements, I think it's
> currently dominated by cache misses and not by branches.  By the time RCU
> gets to run callbacks, memory is certainly L1/L2 cache-cold and probably
> L3 cache-cold.  Also calling the callback functions is utterly impossible
> for the branch predictor.

This seems to have fallen by the wayside.

To get things going again, I suggest starting out by simply replacing
the kfree() in __rcu_reclaim() with kvfree().  If desired, a kvfree_rcu()
can also be defined as a synonym for kfree_rcu().

This gets us a very simple and small patch which provides the ability
to dispose of kvmalloc() memory after a grace period.

								Thanx, Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-22 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-06 10:19 [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Transform kfree_rcu() into kvfree_rcu() Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 10:19 ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 10:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 10:19   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 14:34   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-06 14:34     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-06 15:06     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 15:06       ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 15:49       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-06 15:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-06 10:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Use kvfree_rcu() in update_memcg_params() Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-06 10:19   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-07  2:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Transform kfree_rcu() into kvfree_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  2:17   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  4:23   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07  4:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07  5:02     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  5:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  7:54       ` Josh Triplett
2018-02-07  7:54         ` Josh Triplett
2018-02-07  8:20         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  8:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  7:57       ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-07  7:57         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-02-07  8:31         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07  8:31           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07 13:57           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 13:57             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 16:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07 16:18               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07 16:34               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 16:34                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 16:45             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-02-07 16:45               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-02-07 18:10               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07 18:10                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07 18:26                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 18:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-08  4:10                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-08  4:10                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-22 23:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-02-22 23:55                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-08  4:09             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-08  4:09               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-07 16:47     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-07 16:47       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-07 17:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 17:09         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 17:19         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07 17:19           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-07 17:29           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 17:29             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 17:54             ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-07 17:54               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-07 14:55   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-07 14:55     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-08  4:09     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-08  4:09       ` Paul E. McKenney

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