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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>
Cc: "Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 23:38:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180223223802.GA2010@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADGSJ22Z1ujZOc+OS5E=MwGCy1nTn9D6mHKBz+J=K9+--8R+jg@mail.gmail.com>

Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:22:36PM CET, loseweigh@gmail.com wrote:

[...]

>>>
>>> No, that's not what I was talking about of course. I thought you
>>> mentioned the upgrade scenario this patch would like to address is to
>>> use the bypass interface "to take the place of the original virtio,
>>> and get udev to rename the bypass to what the original virtio_net
>>> was". That is one of the possible upgrade paths for sure. However the
>>> upgrade path I was seeking is to use the bypass interface to take the
>>> place of original VF interface while retaining the name and network
>>> configs, which generally can be done simply with kernel upgrade. It
>>> would become limiting as this patch makes the bypass interface share
>>> the same virtio pci device with virito backup. Can this bypass
>>> interface be made general to take place of any pci device other than
>>> virtio-net? This will be more helpful as the cloud users who has
>>> existing setup on VF interface don't have to recreate it on virtio-net
>>> and VF separately again.

How that could work? If you have the VF netdev with all configuration
including IPs and routes and whatever - now you want to do migration
so you add virtio_net and do some weird in-driver bonding with it. But
then, VF disappears and the VF netdev with that and also all
configuration it had.
I don't think this scenario is valid.


>>
>>
>> Yes. This sounds interesting. Looks like you want an existing VM image with
>> VF only configuration to get transparent live migration support by adding
>> virtio_net with BACKUP feature.  We may need another feature bit to switch
>> between these 2 options.
>
>Yes, that's what I was thinking about. I have been building something
>like this before, and would like to get back after merging with your
>patch.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-23 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-16 18:11 [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-17  3:04   ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-17 17:41     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-17  3:04   ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-16 18:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] virtio_net: Enable alternate datapath without creating an additional netdev Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-16 18:11   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2018-02-17  2:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-17  2:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-17 17:12   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-17 17:12   ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-17 17:12     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-19  6:11     ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-20 16:26       ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-20 16:26         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-20 16:26       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-21 23:50     ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-02-21 23:50       ` Siwei Liu
2018-02-22  0:17       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22  0:17       ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22  0:17         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22  1:59         ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-02-22  1:59           ` Siwei Liu
2018-02-22  2:35           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  2:35           ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  2:35             ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  3:28             ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  3:28               ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-23 22:22             ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-02-23 22:22               ` Siwei Liu
2018-02-23 22:38               ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2018-02-24  0:17                 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-02-24  0:17                   ` Siwei Liu
2018-02-22  1:59         ` Siwei Liu
2018-02-24  0:03         ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-02-25 22:17           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-25 22:17           ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-25 22:17             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 23:50     ` Siwei Liu
2018-02-20 10:42 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-20 16:04   ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 16:04     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 16:29     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-20 17:14       ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-20 17:14         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-20 20:14         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-20 21:02           ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 21:02             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 21:02           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 22:33           ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-21  9:51             ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-21 15:56               ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 15:56                 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 16:11                 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-21 16:49                   ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 16:49                     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 16:58                     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-21 17:56                       ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 17:56                         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 19:38                         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-21 20:57                           ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 20:57                             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22  2:02                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-22  2:15                               ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  2:15                               ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  2:15                                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-22  8:11                             ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-22 11:54                               ` Or Gerlitz
2018-02-22 13:07                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-22 15:30                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22 15:30                                     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22 21:30                               ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-22 21:30                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-23 23:59                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-02-25 22:21                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-25 22:21                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-25 22:21                                     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-26  7:19                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-27  1:02                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-02-27  1:18                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27  1:18                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27  8:27                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-22 21:30                               ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 20:57                           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 17:56                       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 16:49                   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-21 15:56               ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 17:14       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-02-20 17:23       ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 17:23         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-20 19:53         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-27  8:49     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-27 21:16       ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-02-27 21:16         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-27 21:23         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27 21:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27 21:41         ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-02-28  7:08           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-28 14:32             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 14:32               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 15:11               ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-28 15:45                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 15:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 19:25                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-02-28 20:48                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 20:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 20:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 15:45                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27 21:16       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-02-27 21:30       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27 21:30         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27 21:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-20 16:04   ` Alexander Duyck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-02-16 18:11 Sridhar Samudrala

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