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* Setting up a Xen x86 community call
@ 2018-03-02 15:39 Lars Kurth
  2018-03-02 16:36 ` Roger Pau Monné
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From: Lars Kurth @ 2018-03-02 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel
  Cc: Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper, daniel.kiper,
	Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, Chao Peng,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

Hi all, 
(sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)

I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)

I expect that the call will contain

a) Coordination and Planning 
Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting

b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues

c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well

I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.

To do this, please
* Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate
* Provide your timezone
* Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

Your sincerely,
Lars



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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
@ 2018-03-02 16:36 ` Roger Pau Monné
  2018-03-02 16:55 ` Paul Durrant
                   ` (11 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2018-03-02 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper, Susie Li, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, 
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
> 
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
> 
> I expect that the call will contain
> 
> a) Coordination and Planning 
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
> 
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
> 
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
> 
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.

Thanks, I think this has worked well for the ARM community, so we
should give it a try on x86.

> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

I would like to participate.

> * Provide your timezone

UTC

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

8:00am - 6:00pm WFM

Roger.

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
  2018-03-02 16:36 ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2018-03-02 16:55 ` Paul Durrant
  2018-03-02 17:00 ` Andrew Cooper
                   ` (10 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Durrant @ 2018-03-02 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Lars Kurth', xen-devel
  Cc: Kevin Tian, tamas@tklengyel.com, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper@oracle.com, Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné, John Ji,
	Babu Moger, Rich Persaud, committers@xenproject.org, Jan Beulich,
	Hurwitz, Sherry, Chao Peng, joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
	Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lars Kurth [mailto:lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com]
> Sent: 02 March 2018 15:40
> To: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
> Cc: committers@xenproject.org; Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>; Andrew
> Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>; Susie Li <susie.li@intel.com>; John Ji
> <john.ji@intel.com>; Hurwitz, Sherry <sherry.hurwitz@amd.com>; Brian
> Woods <brian.woods@amd.com>; Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>;
> Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>; daniel.kiper@oracle.com;
> joao.m.martins@oracle.com; boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com; Rich Persaud
> <persaur@gmail.com>; Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>; Razvan Cojocaru
> <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>; tamas@tklengyel.com; Paul Durrant
> <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>; Roger Pau Monné <royger@freebsd.org>
> Subject: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
> 
> Hi all,
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and
> people who may have an interest)
> 
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and
> sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and
> follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see
> http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
> 
> I expect that the call will contain
> 
> a) Coordination and Planning
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc.
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more
> than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the
> meeting
> 
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more
> complex items, ...
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and
> many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a
> must, but an option to highlight issues
> 
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific
> issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to
> work very well
> 
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd
> Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread
> across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather
> thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots
> every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
> 
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

I would like to participate.

> * Provide your timezone

GMT

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend
> 

10am - 5pm

Cheers,

  Pail

> Your sincerely,
> Lars
> 


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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
  2018-03-02 16:36 ` Roger Pau Monné
  2018-03-02 16:55 ` Paul Durrant
@ 2018-03-02 17:00 ` Andrew Cooper
  2018-03-02 17:06 ` Wei Liu
                   ` (9 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Cooper @ 2018-03-02 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth, xen-devel
  Cc: Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, daniel.kiper, Susie Li,
	Roger Pau Monné, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, Chao Peng,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On 02/03/18 15:39, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, 
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
>
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
>
> I expect that the call will contain
>
> a) Coordination and Planning 
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
>
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
>
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
>
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
>
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

/me waves

> * Provide your timezone

UTC

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

10am - 5pm ideally.

~Andrew

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-02 17:00 ` Andrew Cooper
@ 2018-03-02 17:06 ` Wei Liu
  2018-03-02 17:11 ` Rich Persaud
                   ` (8 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2018-03-02 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Wei Liu, Razvan Cojocaru,
	Andrew Cooper, daniel.kiper, Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné,
	John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud, paul.durrant, committers,
	Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel, joao.m.martins,
	Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, 
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
> 
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
> 
> I expect that the call will contain
> 
> a) Coordination and Planning 
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
> 
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
> 
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
> 
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
> 
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

I want to participate.

> * Provide your timezone

UTC.

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

9am to 6pm.

Wei.

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-02 17:06 ` Wei Liu
@ 2018-03-02 17:11 ` Rich Persaud
  2018-03-02 17:12 ` Juergen Gross
                   ` (7 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Rich Persaud @ 2018-03-02 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper, Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné, John Ji, Babu Moger,
	paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky


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On Mar 2, 2018, at 10:39, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
> 
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

I would like to participate.

> * Provide your timezone

US Eastern

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

I'll work with any time slot, since most attendees are in other timezones.  Here's a color coded time chart for US central, UK, Europe, China:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=3&day=6&year=2018&p1=24&p2=136&p3=37&p4=33&iv=0

Rich

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-02 17:11 ` Rich Persaud
@ 2018-03-02 17:12 ` Juergen Gross
  2018-03-02 17:22 ` George Dunlap
                   ` (6 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Juergen Gross @ 2018-03-02 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth, xen-devel
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper, Susie Li, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, Roger Pau Monné, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry,
	committers, joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On 02/03/18 16:39, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, 
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
> 
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
> 
> I expect that the call will contain
> 
> a) Coordination and Planning 
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
> 
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
> 
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
> 
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
> 
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

Raising hands

> * Provide your timezone

UTC+1

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

7am to 5pm


Juergen

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-02 17:12 ` Juergen Gross
@ 2018-03-02 17:22 ` George Dunlap
  2018-03-02 21:54 ` Brian Woods
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: George Dunlap @ 2018-03-02 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth, xen-devel
  Cc: Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper, daniel.kiper,
	Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, Chao Peng,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On 03/02/2018 03:39 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, 
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
> 
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
> 
> I expect that the call will contain
> 
> a) Coordination and Planning 
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
> 
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
> 
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
> 
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
> 
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

o/

> * Provide your timezone

UTC

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

UTC 0900-1800

 -George

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-02 17:22 ` George Dunlap
@ 2018-03-02 21:54 ` Brian Woods
  2018-03-03  1:08 ` Tamas K Lengyel
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Brian Woods @ 2018-03-02 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper, Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné, John Ji, Babu Moger,
	Rich Persaud, paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich,
	Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel, joao.m.martins, Brian Woods,
	boris.ostrovsky

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, 
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
> 
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
> 
> I expect that the call will contain
> 
> a) Coordination and Planning 
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
> 
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
> 
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
> 
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
> 
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

\o/

> * Provide your timezone

CT

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

15:00-23:00

> Your sincerely,
> Lars
> 
> 

-- 
Brian Woods

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-02 21:54 ` Brian Woods
@ 2018-03-03  1:08 ` Tamas K Lengyel
  2018-03-03  6:57 ` Ji, John
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tamas K Lengyel @ 2018-03-03  1:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, Roger Pau Monné, Razvan Cojocaru,
	Andrew Cooper, Daniel Kiper, Susie Li, John Ji, Babu Moger,
	Rich Persaud, Paul Durrant, committers, Jan Beulich,
	Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel, joao.m.martins, Brian Woods,
	Boris Ostrovsky

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
>
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
>
> I expect that the call will contain
>
> a) Coordination and Planning
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc.
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
>
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ...
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
>
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
>
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
>
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

\o/

> * Provide your timezone

MST

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend

15:00-23:00

Tamas

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (8 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-03  1:08 ` Tamas K Lengyel
@ 2018-03-03  6:57 ` Ji, John
  2018-03-05 10:39 ` Daniel Kiper
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ji, John @ 2018-03-03  6:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth, xen-devel
  Cc: Tian, Kevin, tamas@tklengyel.com, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper@oracle.com, Li, Susie, Roger Pau Monné,
	Babu Moger, Rich Persaud, paul.durrant@citrix.com,
	committers@xenproject.org, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry,
	Chao Peng, joao.m.martins@oracle.com, Brian Woods,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com

Hi, Lars and all, 
This is really great and absolutely needed! We are very glad to see this can happen. 

From Intel, Peng Chao will attend all sessions and features owners (Zhang Haozhong, Huang Kai, Feng Boqun, Zhang Yi, Zhang Yu, Kang Luwei, Zhong Yang) will attend according to topics. We are also discussing to have more people from Intel to attend. 

Time: 6:00AM~12:00AM China time is all ok for us. 

Best Regards

John Ji


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Subject: Setting up a Xen x86 community call

Hi all,
(sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)

I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)

I expect that the call will contain

a) Coordination and Planning
Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc. 
I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting

b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ... 
Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues

c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well

I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.

To do this, please
* Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate
* Provide your timezone
* Provide a UTC time range when you can attend 

Your sincerely,
Lars



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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (9 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-03  6:57 ` Ji, John
@ 2018-03-05 10:39 ` Daniel Kiper
  2018-03-06 17:29 ` Janakarajan Natarajan
  2018-03-07 12:27 ` Lars Kurth
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Kiper @ 2018-03-05 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	Susie Li, Roger Pau Monné, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, committers, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all,
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
>
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
>
> I expect that the call will contain
>
> a) Coordination and Planning
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc.
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
>
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ...
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
>
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
>
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
>
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

\o/

> * Provide your timezone

CET/CEST

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend

Tuesday except 16:00-17:00/15:00-16:00 UTC works for me.
Thursday does not at all.

Daniel

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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (10 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-05 10:39 ` Daniel Kiper
@ 2018-03-06 17:29 ` Janakarajan Natarajan
  2018-03-07 12:27 ` Lars Kurth
  12 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Janakarajan Natarajan @ 2018-03-06 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth, xen-devel
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	daniel.kiper, Susie Li, John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud,
	paul.durrant, Roger Pau Monné, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry,
	committers, joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On 03/02/2018 09:39 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all,
> (sorry for the extensive distribution list - I went through MAINTAINERS and people who may have an interest)
>
> I would like to start organizing a recurring x86 community call to discuss and sync-up on upcoming features for Xen on x86. This call would mirror and follow a similar structure to the ARM call (see http://xen.markmail.org/thread/xqdxvqcjpf2y5ftu for the last one)
>
> I expect that the call will contain
>
> a) Coordination and Planning
> Coordinating who does what, what needs attention, what is blocked, etc.
> I would prepare a list of non-merged patch series of a certain size (e.g. more than 5 patches) and attach to the invite
> If anything is missed, I would expect that these are sent to me before the meeting
>
> b) Design and architecture related discussions: in particular for bigger, more complex items, ...
> Although all of this could be done by email, in reality, we are all human and many people find it easier to collaborate
> and communicate by talking to each other, rather than by email. This is not a must, but an option to highlight issues
>
> c) Demos, Sharing of Experiences, Sometimes discussion of specific issues/bugs/problems/...
> This is something which happens frequently on the ARM call and seems to work very well
>
> I would suggest to start with a 1 hour monthly meeting: possibly every 2nd Tue or Thu each month (depends on timing). I know that people are spread across different timezones (from China to the US), so I would like to gather thoughts before choosing a time. We may have to have alternating time-slots every other month: but this is not ideal for some.
>
> To do this, please
> * Raise your hands on whether you or your org would want to participate

o/

> * Provide your timezone

CT

> * Provide a UTC time range when you can attend

15:00-23:00

>
> Your sincerely,
> Lars

Janakarajan Natarajan

>
> _______________________________________________
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> Xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
> https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-devel


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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-02 15:39 Setting up a Xen x86 community call Lars Kurth
                   ` (11 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-03-06 17:29 ` Janakarajan Natarajan
@ 2018-03-07 12:27 ` Lars Kurth
  2018-03-07 14:45   ` Daniel Kiper
  12 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Lars Kurth @ 2018-03-07 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel, Jan Beulich, Christopher Clark, daniel.kiper
  Cc: Janakarajan Natarajan, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru,
	Andrew Cooper, 'Susie Li', Roger Pau Monné, John Ji,
	Babu Moger, Rich Persaud, paul.durrant, committers,
	Hurwitz, Sherry, Chao Peng, joao.m.martins, Brian Woods,
	boris.ostrovsky

Hi all,

thanks for the feedback. It seems to me that the following times satisfy all requirements. Those with minor issues are on the TO list and called out below.

Winter
======
15:00 - 16:00 UTC
07:00 - 08:00 Pacific
09:00 - 10:00 Austin
10:00 - 11:00 New York
15:00 - 16:00 London
16:00 - 17:00 Berlin
23:00 - 24:00 Beijing

Summer
======
14:00 - 15:00 UTC
07:00 - 08:00 Pacific
09:00 - 10:00 Austin
10:00 - 11:00 New York
15:00 - 16:00 London
16:00 - 17:00 Berlin
22:00 - 23:00 Beijing

See https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/events.html for summer time changes specific countries

The information is also collated in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JRTy6u6ZfwfN0wRnW79bJtKvMhMDTcQIutpLz4GdzFo/edit?usp=sharing (the second tab shows a snippet of the world clock)

Jan Beulich: 
Only Wed up to 17:00 

Daniel Kiper: 
Can't do this slot on Tuesday, and not Thursday
But I am assuming Wed may work. 
If not, I hope that someone else from Oracle can attend instead.

Christopher Clark: 
Not the preferred, but a tolerable slot. 
So I am assuming this would be OK

My proposal would be to hold the meeting at least for the next 3 months the 2nd Wednesday at 15:00 - 16:00 GMT/BST, starting from Wed, March 14th

For exact timezones, see https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018&month=3&day=14&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=24&p3=179&p4=136&p5=37&p6=33

Note that on that day, the US will already be in daylight savings, while Europe is not.

Given that for the 4.11 release, the following dates hold
* Last posting date: March 16th, 2018
* Hard code freeze: March 30th, 2018

I will go ahead and book the meeting and send out a meeting invite with people indicating interest being added to the CC list.

Best Regards
Lars


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* Re: Setting up a Xen x86 community call
  2018-03-07 12:27 ` Lars Kurth
@ 2018-03-07 14:45   ` Daniel Kiper
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Kiper @ 2018-03-07 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Kurth
  Cc: Chao Peng, Kevin Tian, tamas, Razvan Cojocaru, Andrew Cooper,
	'Susie Li', Roger Pau Monné, Christopher Clark,
	John Ji, Babu Moger, Rich Persaud, paul.durrant, committers,
	Janakarajan Natarajan, Jan Beulich, Hurwitz, Sherry, xen-devel,
	joao.m.martins, Brian Woods, boris.ostrovsky

On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 01:27:45PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> thanks for the feedback. It seems to me that the following times satisfy all requirements.
> Those with minor issues are on the TO list and called out below.
>
> Winter
> ======
> 15:00 - 16:00 UTC
> 07:00 - 08:00 Pacific
> 09:00 - 10:00 Austin
> 10:00 - 11:00 New York
> 15:00 - 16:00 London
> 16:00 - 17:00 Berlin
> 23:00 - 24:00 Beijing
>
> Summer
> ======
> 14:00 - 15:00 UTC
> 07:00 - 08:00 Pacific
> 09:00 - 10:00 Austin
> 10:00 - 11:00 New York
> 15:00 - 16:00 London
> 16:00 - 17:00 Berlin
> 22:00 - 23:00 Beijing
>
> See https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/events.html for summer time changes specific countries
>
> The information is also collated in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JRTy6u6ZfwfN0wRnW79bJtKvMhMDTcQIutpLz4GdzFo/edit?usp=sharing (the second tab shows a snippet of the world clock)
>
> Jan Beulich:
> Only Wed up to 17:00
>
> Daniel Kiper:
> Can't do this slot on Tuesday, and not Thursday
> But I am assuming Wed may work.

Yep, I am OK with that.

Daniel

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