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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Cc: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	pali.rohar@gmail.com, sre@kernel.org,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, hans.verkuil@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180320075054.GA30239@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180319095544.7e235a3e@vento.lan>

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Hi!

> > > 2) support for running libv4l2 on mc-based devices. I'd like to do
> > > that.
> > > 
> > > Description file would look like. (# comments would not be not part of file).
> > > 
> > > V4L2MEDIADESC
> > > 3 # number of files to open
> > > /dev/video2
> > > /dev/video6
> > > /dev/video3  
> 
> "Easy" file formats usually means maintenance troubles as new
> things are needed, and makes worse for users to write it. 
> You should take a look at lib/libdvbv5/dvb-file.c, mainly at 
> fill_entry() and dvb_read_file().

Well, file formats just need to be maintained.

> > Instead these should be entity names from the media controller.
> 
> Agreed that it should use MC. Yet, IMHO, the best would be to use
> the entity function instead, as entity names might eventually
> change on newer versions of the Kernel.

Kernel interfaces are not supposed to be changing.

> (again, user may specify just name, just function or both)
> 
> > > 3 # number of controls to map. Controls not mentioned here go to
> > >   # device 0 automatically. Sorted by control id.
> > >   # Device 0 
> > > 00980913 1
> > > 009a0003 1
> > > 009a000a 2  
> 
> I would, instead, encode it as:
> 
> 	[control white balance]
> 		control_id = 0x00980913
> 		entity = foo_entity_name

Ok, that's really overly complex. If futrue extensibility is concern
we can do

0x00980913=whatever.

> Allowing both hexadecimal values and control macro names (can easily parsed 
> from the header file, as we already do for other things with "make
> sync").

"Easily" as in "more complex then rest of proposed code combined" :-(.

> It should probably be easy to add a generic pipeline descriptor
> with a format like:
> 
> 	[pipeline pipe1]
> 		link0 = SGRBG10 640x480: entity1:0 -> entity2:0[1]
> 		link1 = SGRBG10 640x480: entity2:2-> entity3:0[1]
> 		link2 = UYVY 640x480: entity3:1-> entity4:0[1]
> 		link3 = UYVY 640x480: entity4:1-> entity5:0[1]
> 
> 		sink0 = UYVY 320x200: entity5:0[1]
> 		sink1 = UYVY 640x480: entity3:0[1]

Well, first, this looks like very unsuitable for key=value file. Plus,
it will not be easy to parse. .... and control map needs to be
per-pipeline-configuration. Again, proposed Windows-style format can
not easily do that.

Best regards,
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-20  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-14 12:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 22:47   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-15  7:15     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-15  8:09       ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 22:26         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-20 22:48           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-15  2:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-15  7:12     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-16  9:12     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-04-19 13:51       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24  9:30         ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 13:38           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 13:38             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 21:29             ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 21:29               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:47               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:47                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:05                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:08                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:30                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:30                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:51                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:51                             ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 16:55                         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:55                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-26 10:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                 ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was " Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:13                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:13                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 13:23                     ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 13:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 15:43                       ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 15:43                         ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 22:51                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-27  5:52                           ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-27  5:52                             ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-07-13  7:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  7:57                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:05                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:58                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:58                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 22:28                         ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  6:29                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  6:32                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  8:02                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 10:59                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix typos Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:01                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Add support for GRBG10 format conversion Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:04                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Introduce define for lookup table size Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 11:17                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 12:45                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 12:56                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 23:23                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-19  9:13                                     ` [libv4l]: How to do 10-bit support? Stand-alone conversions? Pavel Machek
2018-03-16 20:55                                     ` [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline Pavel Machek
2018-03-19  9:47                                       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 10:23                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 10:47                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 11:11                                             ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:00                                               ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 12:15                                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:48                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:29                                                     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 22:18                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:45                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 13:26                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-20  7:50                                                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-05-15 20:01                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 22:03                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-16 20:53                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 21:01                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  6:18                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06  8:46                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  8:53                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 10:01                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 16:57                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 21:27                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07 12:22                                                                     ` [PATCH, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 10:51                                                                 ` [RFC, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 11:16                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 20:37                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 17:13                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 10:23                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07  7:25                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:10                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 10:42                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-21 10:33                             ` [patch, libv4l]: add sdlcam example for testing digital still camera functionality Pavel Machek
2017-05-26 20:41                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-27  9:27                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  6:13                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  7:32                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-29  8:02                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-06-14 11:16                                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-14 20:41                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  8:36                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  8:07                           ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                       ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                     ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was Re: support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:26                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:26                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-29  9:19                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  9:19                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-21 22:00                     ` Camera support, Prague next week, sdlcam Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  7:36                       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  7:36                         ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  8:31                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  8:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 19:24                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 19:24                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 20:15                             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 20:15                               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 21:02                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-23 21:02                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-31 21:28                               ` Nokia N9: fun with camera Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07             ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:57               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:57                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:20                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-28 22:00         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  1:46           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 10:49         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-05-13 11:08           ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ad5820: Use VOICE_COIL_CURRENT control Sakari Ailus

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