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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	mchehab@s-opensource.com, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	pali.rohar@gmail.com, sre@kernel.org,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:13:19 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180606141312.3c2913e2@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180606105116.GA4328@amd>

Em Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:51:16 +0200
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> escreveu:

> > > > The scenario that I could think of is:
> > > > - legacy app would call open(/dev/video?), which would be handled by
> > > > libv4l open hook (v4l2_open()?),  
> > >
> > > I don't think that kind of legacy apps is in use any more. I'd prefer
> > > not to deal with them.  
> > 
> > In another thread ("[ANN v2] Complex Camera Workshop - Tokyo - Jun,
> > 19"), Mauro has mentioned a number of those:
> > 
> > "open source ones (Camorama, Cheese, Xawtv, Firefox, Chromium, ...) and closed
> > source ones (Skype, Chrome, ...)"  
> 
> Thanks for thread pointer... I may be able to get in using hangouts.
> 
> Anyway, there's big difference between open("/dev/video0") and
> v4l2_open("/dev/video0"). I don't care about the first one, but yes we
> should be able to support the second one eventually.
> 
> And I don't think Mauro says apps like Camorama are of open() kind.

All open source apps we care use v4l2_open() & friends. the ones
that use just open() work via LD_PRELOAD. It is a hack, but it
was needed when libv4l was added (as there were lots of apps
to be touched). Also, we had problems on that time with closed
source app developers. I guess nowadays, among v4l-specific
apps, only closed source ones use just open().

Haven't check how browsers open cameras, though. A quick look at the
Fedora 60 dependencies, though, doesn't show libv4l:

	https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/devel/rawhide/x86_64/f/firefox-60.0.1-5.fc29.x86_64.html

It might be statically linking libv4l, or maybe they rely on something
else (like java/flash/...), but I guess it is more likely that they're
just using open() somehow. The same kind of issue may also be present
on other browsers and on java libraries.

Thanks,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-06 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-14 12:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 22:47   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-15  7:15     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-15  8:09       ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 22:26         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-20 22:48           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-15  2:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-15  7:12     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-16  9:12     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-04-19 13:51       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24  9:30         ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 13:38           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 13:38             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 21:29             ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 21:29               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:47               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:47                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:05                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:08                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:30                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:30                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:51                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:51                             ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 16:55                         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:55                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-26 10:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                 ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was " Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:13                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:13                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 13:23                     ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 13:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 15:43                       ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 15:43                         ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 22:51                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-27  5:52                           ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-27  5:52                             ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-07-13  7:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  7:57                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:05                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:58                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:58                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 22:28                         ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  6:29                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  6:32                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  8:02                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 10:59                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix typos Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:01                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Add support for GRBG10 format conversion Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:04                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Introduce define for lookup table size Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 11:17                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 12:45                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 12:56                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 23:23                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-19  9:13                                     ` [libv4l]: How to do 10-bit support? Stand-alone conversions? Pavel Machek
2018-03-16 20:55                                     ` [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline Pavel Machek
2018-03-19  9:47                                       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 10:23                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 10:47                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 11:11                                             ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:00                                               ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 12:15                                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:48                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:29                                                     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 22:18                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:45                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 13:26                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-20  7:50                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 20:01                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 22:03                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-16 20:53                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 21:01                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  6:18                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06  8:46                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  8:53                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 10:01                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 16:57                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 21:27                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07 12:22                                                                     ` [PATCH, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 10:51                                                                 ` [RFC, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 11:16                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 20:37                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 17:13                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2018-06-06 10:23                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07  7:25                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:10                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 10:42                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-21 10:33                             ` [patch, libv4l]: add sdlcam example for testing digital still camera functionality Pavel Machek
2017-05-26 20:41                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-27  9:27                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  6:13                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  7:32                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-29  8:02                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-06-14 11:16                                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-14 20:41                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  8:36                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  8:07                           ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                       ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                     ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was Re: support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:26                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:26                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-29  9:19                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  9:19                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-21 22:00                     ` Camera support, Prague next week, sdlcam Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  7:36                       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  7:36                         ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  8:31                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  8:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 19:24                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 19:24                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 20:15                             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 20:15                               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 21:02                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-23 21:02                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-31 21:28                               ` Nokia N9: fun with camera Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07             ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:57               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:57                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:20                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-28 22:00         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  1:46           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 10:49         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-05-13 11:08           ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ad5820: Use VOICE_COIL_CURRENT control Sakari Ailus

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