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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ravi V Shankar
	<ravi.v.shankar-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andy Shevchenko
	<andriy.shevchenko-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Gayatri Kammela
	<gayatri.kammela-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] Add Intel IOMMU debugfs support
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:05:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180329090535.65c41cc1@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180329084824.fvy7cg2wban4by4n-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:48:24 +0200
Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> [ Adding Gary from AMD to Cc ]
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 09:37:14AM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:18:54 +0100
> > Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 08:38:11AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:  
> > > > Just wondering if your concern is on the implementation or the
> > > > debugfs idea in general. Perhaps have some common IOMMU
> > > > debugfs?    
> > > 
> > > My concern mainly is that we add interfaces which reveal
> > > potentially security relevant information  
> > I don;t think security is any worse than existing kernel page table
> > in debugfs. i.e. /sys/kernel/debug/page_tables
> > This is a debug feature.  
> 
> Okay, so here is the way to go: Please introduce a basic debugfs
> facility to the core iommu code. It should basically only create a
> 'iommu/' directory in debugfs where drivers can create their own
> sub-directories. This must be enabled by a new kconfig option
> (CONFIG_IOMMU_DEBUGFS) and the kernel should print a big fat warning
> at boot when it is enabled. This hopefully prevents anyone from
> enabling it for production kernels.
> 
> Then in the next cycle I will review again more closely what
> information about VT-d and AMD-Vi is revealed there and will probably
> apply what I can live with.
> 
sounds great. we will provide vt-d info for both current and
potential extensions so that you can consider if there can be any
abstractions.

> Thanks,
> 
> 	Joerg
> 

[Jacob Pan]

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Gary R Hook <gary.hook@amd.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Gayatri Kammela <gayatri.kammela@intel.com>,
	Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] Add Intel IOMMU debugfs support
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:05:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180329090535.65c41cc1@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180329084824.fvy7cg2wban4by4n@8bytes.org>

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:48:24 +0200
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org> wrote:

> [ Adding Gary from AMD to Cc ]
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 09:37:14AM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:18:54 +0100
> > Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 08:38:11AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:  
> > > > Just wondering if your concern is on the implementation or the
> > > > debugfs idea in general. Perhaps have some common IOMMU
> > > > debugfs?    
> > > 
> > > My concern mainly is that we add interfaces which reveal
> > > potentially security relevant information  
> > I don;t think security is any worse than existing kernel page table
> > in debugfs. i.e. /sys/kernel/debug/page_tables
> > This is a debug feature.  
> 
> Okay, so here is the way to go: Please introduce a basic debugfs
> facility to the core iommu code. It should basically only create a
> 'iommu/' directory in debugfs where drivers can create their own
> sub-directories. This must be enabled by a new kconfig option
> (CONFIG_IOMMU_DEBUGFS) and the kernel should print a big fat warning
> at boot when it is enabled. This hopefully prevents anyone from
> enabling it for production kernels.
> 
> Then in the next cycle I will review again more closely what
> information about VT-d and AMD-Vi is revealed there and will probably
> apply what I can live with.
> 
sounds great. we will provide vt-d info for both current and
potential extensions so that you can consider if there can be any
abstractions.

> Thanks,
> 
> 	Joerg
> 

[Jacob Pan]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-29 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-03  0:49 [PATCH v7 0/5] Add Intel IOMMU debugfs support Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:49 ` Sohil Mehta
     [not found] ` <1517619001-148586-1-git-send-email-sohil.mehta-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-03  0:49   ` [PATCH v7 1/5] iommu/vt-d: Relocate struct/function declarations to its header files Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:49     ` Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:49   ` [PATCH v7 2/5] iommu/vt-d: Enable debugfs support to show context internals Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:49     ` Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:49   ` [PATCH v7 3/5] iommu/vt-d: Add debugfs support to show register contents Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:49     ` Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:50   ` [PATCH v7 4/5] iommu/vt-d: Add debugfs support to show Pasid table contents Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:50     ` Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:50   ` [PATCH v7 5/5] iommu/vt-d: Add debugfs support for Interrupt remapping Sohil Mehta
2018-02-03  0:50     ` Sohil Mehta
2018-02-04 14:13   ` [PATCH v7 0/5] Add Intel IOMMU debugfs support Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-04 14:13     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-13 14:03   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-02-13 14:03     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-02-13 21:40     ` Raj, Ashok
2018-02-13 22:53       ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-13 22:53         ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-15  9:53         ` Joerg Roedel
2018-02-15  9:53           ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]           ` <20180215095337.fccoozdclfnbepi4-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-15 16:38             ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-15 16:38               ` Jacob Pan
2018-03-15 13:18               ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                 ` <20180315131854.s6xmltsvsysublcw-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-19 16:37                   ` Jacob Pan
2018-03-19 16:37                     ` Jacob Pan
2018-03-29  8:48                     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-03-29  8:48                       ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                       ` <20180329084824.fvy7cg2wban4by4n-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-29 15:52                         ` Gary R Hook
2018-03-29 15:52                           ` Gary R Hook
2018-03-29 16:05                         ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2018-03-29 16:05                           ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-18 22:15       ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2018-02-18 22:15         ` Yves-Alexis Perez
     [not found]         ` <1518992132.2542.5.camel-8fiUuRrzOP0dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-20 22:25           ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-20 22:25             ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-22  7:48             ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2018-02-22  7:48               ` Yves-Alexis Perez
     [not found]               ` <1519285717.2388.11.camel-8fiUuRrzOP0dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-22 17:09                 ` Jacob Pan
2018-02-22 17:09                   ` Jacob Pan

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