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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Device Tree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND v2 3/4] doc/devicetree: Persistent memory region bindings
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:43:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180405144348.141fd93f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4if4un9mgFon4ttjKDYEtHC_GP6VoxUENp7YNS50T3afA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 07:21:32 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Oliver <oohall@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:37:51 -0700
> >> Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >>> > Add device-tree binding documentation for the nvdimm region driver.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>> > Signed-off-by: Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>
> >>> > ---
> >>> > v2: Changed name from nvdimm-region to pmem-region.
> >>> >     Cleaned up the example binding and fixed the overlapping regions.
> >>> >     Added support for multiple regions in a single reg.
> >>> > ---
> >>> >  .../devicetree/bindings/pmem/pmem-region.txt       | 80 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >  MAINTAINERS                                        |  1 +
> >>> >  2 files changed, 81 insertions(+)
> >>> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pmem/pmem-region.txt  
> >>>
> >>> Device-tree folks, does this look, ok?
> >>>
> >>> Oliver, is there any concept of a management interface to the
> >>> device(s) backing these regions? libnvdimm calls these "nmem" devices
> >>> and support operations like health status and namespace label
> >>> management.  
> >
> > It's something I'm planning on implementing as soon as someone gives
> > me some hardware that isn't hacked up lab crap. I'm posting this
> > version with just regions since people have been asking for something
> > in upstream even if it's not fully featured.
> >
> > Grumbling aside, the plan is to have separate drivers for the DIMM
> > type. Discovering DIMM devices happens via the normal discovery
> > mechanisms (e.g. an NVDIMM supporting the JEDEC interface is an I2C
> > device) and when binding to a specific DIMM device it registers a DIMM
> > descriptor structure and a ndctl implementation for that DIMM type
> > with of_pmem. When of_pmem binds to a region it can plug everything
> > into the region specific bus. There's a few details to work out, but I
> > think it's a reasonable approach.  
> 
> Yeah, that sounds reasonable. It would mean that your management
> interface would need to understand that nmems on different buses could
> potentially move to another bus after a reconfiguration, but that's
> not too much different than the ACPI case where nmems can join and
> leave regions after a reset / reconfig.
> 
> >> We would need a way to have nmem and pmem-regions find each other. Since we
> >> don't have the ACPI abstractions, the nmem region would need to add the
> >> ability for a driver to have a phandle to the interleaving and nmem properties.
> >>
> >> I guess that would be a separate driver, that would manage the nmem devices
> >> and there would be a way to relate the pmem and nmems. Oliver?  
> >
> > Yes, that's the plan.  
> 
> So Balbir, is that enough for an Acked-by for this device-tree proposal?

I don't see any major problems with the binding, but I think Oliver wanted
to send in a few clarifications based on a private discussion.

Balbir Singh.


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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Oliver <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Device Tree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND v2 3/4] doc/devicetree: Persistent memory region bindings
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:43:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180405144348.141fd93f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4if4un9mgFon4ttjKDYEtHC_GP6VoxUENp7YNS50T3afA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 07:21:32 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Oliver <oohall@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:37:51 -0700
> >> Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >>> > Add device-tree binding documentation for the nvdimm region driver.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>> > Signed-off-by: Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>
> >>> > ---
> >>> > v2: Changed name from nvdimm-region to pmem-region.
> >>> >     Cleaned up the example binding and fixed the overlapping regions.
> >>> >     Added support for multiple regions in a single reg.
> >>> > ---
> >>> >  .../devicetree/bindings/pmem/pmem-region.txt       | 80 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >  MAINTAINERS                                        |  1 +
> >>> >  2 files changed, 81 insertions(+)
> >>> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pmem/pmem-region.txt  
> >>>
> >>> Device-tree folks, does this look, ok?
> >>>
> >>> Oliver, is there any concept of a management interface to the
> >>> device(s) backing these regions? libnvdimm calls these "nmem" devices
> >>> and support operations like health status and namespace label
> >>> management.  
> >
> > It's something I'm planning on implementing as soon as someone gives
> > me some hardware that isn't hacked up lab crap. I'm posting this
> > version with just regions since people have been asking for something
> > in upstream even if it's not fully featured.
> >
> > Grumbling aside, the plan is to have separate drivers for the DIMM
> > type. Discovering DIMM devices happens via the normal discovery
> > mechanisms (e.g. an NVDIMM supporting the JEDEC interface is an I2C
> > device) and when binding to a specific DIMM device it registers a DIMM
> > descriptor structure and a ndctl implementation for that DIMM type
> > with of_pmem. When of_pmem binds to a region it can plug everything
> > into the region specific bus. There's a few details to work out, but I
> > think it's a reasonable approach.  
> 
> Yeah, that sounds reasonable. It would mean that your management
> interface would need to understand that nmems on different buses could
> potentially move to another bus after a reconfiguration, but that's
> not too much different than the ACPI case where nmems can join and
> leave regions after a reset / reconfig.
> 
> >> We would need a way to have nmem and pmem-regions find each other. Since we
> >> don't have the ACPI abstractions, the nmem region would need to add the
> >> ability for a driver to have a phandle to the interleaving and nmem properties.
> >>
> >> I guess that would be a separate driver, that would manage the nmem devices
> >> and there would be a way to relate the pmem and nmems. Oliver?  
> >
> > Yes, that's the plan.  
> 
> So Balbir, is that enough for an Acked-by for this device-tree proposal?

I don't see any major problems with the binding, but I think Oliver wanted
to send in a few clarifications based on a private discussion.

Balbir Singh.

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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Device Tree <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linuxppc-dev
	<linuxppc-dev-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nvdimm
	<linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND v2 3/4] doc/devicetree: Persistent memory region bindings
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:43:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180405144348.141fd93f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4if4un9mgFon4ttjKDYEtHC_GP6VoxUENp7YNS50T3afA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 07:21:32 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Oliver <oohall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Balbir Singh <bsingharora-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:  
> >> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:37:51 -0700
> >> Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Oliver O'Halloran <oohall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:  
> >>> > Add device-tree binding documentation for the nvdimm region driver.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> >>> > Signed-off-by: Oliver O'Halloran <oohall-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > ---
> >>> > v2: Changed name from nvdimm-region to pmem-region.
> >>> >     Cleaned up the example binding and fixed the overlapping regions.
> >>> >     Added support for multiple regions in a single reg.
> >>> > ---
> >>> >  .../devicetree/bindings/pmem/pmem-region.txt       | 80 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >  MAINTAINERS                                        |  1 +
> >>> >  2 files changed, 81 insertions(+)
> >>> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pmem/pmem-region.txt  
> >>>
> >>> Device-tree folks, does this look, ok?
> >>>
> >>> Oliver, is there any concept of a management interface to the
> >>> device(s) backing these regions? libnvdimm calls these "nmem" devices
> >>> and support operations like health status and namespace label
> >>> management.  
> >
> > It's something I'm planning on implementing as soon as someone gives
> > me some hardware that isn't hacked up lab crap. I'm posting this
> > version with just regions since people have been asking for something
> > in upstream even if it's not fully featured.
> >
> > Grumbling aside, the plan is to have separate drivers for the DIMM
> > type. Discovering DIMM devices happens via the normal discovery
> > mechanisms (e.g. an NVDIMM supporting the JEDEC interface is an I2C
> > device) and when binding to a specific DIMM device it registers a DIMM
> > descriptor structure and a ndctl implementation for that DIMM type
> > with of_pmem. When of_pmem binds to a region it can plug everything
> > into the region specific bus. There's a few details to work out, but I
> > think it's a reasonable approach.  
> 
> Yeah, that sounds reasonable. It would mean that your management
> interface would need to understand that nmems on different buses could
> potentially move to another bus after a reconfiguration, but that's
> not too much different than the ACPI case where nmems can join and
> leave regions after a reset / reconfig.
> 
> >> We would need a way to have nmem and pmem-regions find each other. Since we
> >> don't have the ACPI abstractions, the nmem region would need to add the
> >> ability for a driver to have a phandle to the interleaving and nmem properties.
> >>
> >> I guess that would be a separate driver, that would manage the nmem devices
> >> and there would be a way to relate the pmem and nmems. Oliver?  
> >
> > Yes, that's the plan.  
> 
> So Balbir, is that enough for an Acked-by for this device-tree proposal?

I don't see any major problems with the binding, but I think Oliver wanted
to send in a few clarifications based on a private discussion.

Balbir Singh.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-05  4:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-03 14:24 [RESEND v2 1/4] libnvdimm: Add of_node to region and bus descriptors Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 14:24 ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 14:24 ` [RESEND v2 2/4] libnvdimm: Add device-tree based driver Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 14:24   ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 17:34   ` Dan Williams
2018-04-03 17:34     ` Dan Williams
2018-04-03 14:24 ` [RESEND v2 3/4] doc/devicetree: Persistent memory region bindings Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 14:24   ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 14:24   ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 17:37   ` Dan Williams
2018-04-03 17:37     ` Dan Williams
2018-04-03 17:37     ` Dan Williams
2018-04-04 12:07     ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-04 12:07       ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-04 12:07       ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-04 14:04       ` Oliver
2018-04-04 14:04         ` Oliver
2018-04-04 14:04         ` Oliver
2018-04-04 14:21         ` Dan Williams
2018-04-04 14:21           ` Dan Williams
2018-04-04 14:21           ` Dan Williams
2018-04-05  4:43           ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2018-04-05  4:43             ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-05  4:43             ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-05 11:34           ` Oliver
2018-04-05 11:34             ` Oliver
2018-04-05 11:34             ` Oliver
2018-04-05 12:11             ` Michael Ellerman
2018-04-05 12:11               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-04-05 12:11               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-04-05 12:43               ` Oliver
2018-04-05 12:43                 ` Oliver
2018-04-05 12:43                 ` Oliver
2018-04-05 14:43                 ` Dan Williams
2018-04-05 14:43                   ` Dan Williams
2018-04-05 14:43                   ` Dan Williams
2018-04-06  2:14                   ` Oliver
2018-04-06  2:14                     ` Oliver
2018-04-06  2:14                     ` Oliver
2018-04-06  2:25                     ` Dan Williams
2018-04-06  2:25                       ` Dan Williams
2018-04-06  2:25                       ` Dan Williams
2018-04-06  3:57                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-06  3:57                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-06  3:57                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-03 14:24 ` [RESEND v2 4/4] powerpc/powernv: Create platform devs for nvdimm buses Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-03 14:24   ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-04-04 12:20   ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-04 12:20     ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-04 11:30 ` [RESEND v2 1/4] libnvdimm: Add of_node to region and bus descriptors Balbir Singh
2018-04-04 11:30   ` Balbir Singh

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